FWST: A day after being let go, Gary Patterson shows up to work for TCU football

[Wexahu]

Mainly posted this for the winning pct stats, not Brandt's opinion. If GP lost the last four he'd still be ahead of Franchione in winning %.

Yeah, I'd like to know what Gil would have considered "fair".

And I'd bet most of what I own he hasn't watched 2 quarters of our games this year.

 

[Pharm Frog]

bro, why are you already this angry?

Imagine your boss was in charge of a project this week. He gets fired and youre left to finish the project in a short amount of time which you werent prepared for. The boss understands that, and comes back just to give the details of what he was leading and you were helping to work on. Now, you can look over the notes and throw them away or use them on Saturday as help.

Calm down Alice.

I get your scenario but in my world that boss would have been escorted out of the building, security pass immediately revoked, computer access blocked, would not have been permitted to return to his or her office, and personal belongings packed and delivered within 48 hours. And it wouldn’t have mattered one bit of the parting was amiable or antagonistic. Not saying the situations are analogous but if I was unprepared to complete that project on-time, in-budget, and in-scope after being on the project team, I wouldn’t be far behind my boss.

As I mentioned in my post, he was apparently given the chance to coach out this season (finish the project). If reports are accurate he chose not to. That would never have been an option in my profession. That’s okay. I’d have preferred it the other way but I don’t get a lot of what I prefer and that’s okay too.

Do we know if he gathered and addressed the team?

 

[jake102]

We've got the 1-2 punch of Evans and Miller right now and we absolutely suck.

And they are the only position group that has nothing to do with our record. In fact, without them, we easily lose to Cal and have much more trouble with Tech. I just don't understand why Evans gets any grief when you can point out 10 starters who shouldn't play for G5 teams. Is he perfect? Nope. But he's a mile from the issue.

 

[jake102]

Yeah, I'd like to know what Gil would have considered "fair".

And I'd bet most of what I own he hasn't watched 2 quarters of our games this year.

Didn't Gil defraud a bunch of people? Or was that someone else?

 

[Tony Lema]

ExHCGP has earned the right. Is it a little weird? Maybe. But, for one or two days, nobody should have a problem with it. I'm giving him a lot of latitude after everything he has done for TCU.

 

[Mean Purple]

Mainly posted this for the winning pct stats, not Brandt's opinion. If GP lost the last four he'd still be ahead of Franchione in winning %.

Didn't Gil just defraud a bunch of subscribers?

 

[Mean Purple]

Great man.

 

[Pharm Frog]

Didn't Gil just defraud a bunch of subscribers?

Lebreton I think. I was one of them

 

[Wexahu]

And they are the only position group that has nothing to do with our record. In fact, without them, we easily lose to Cal and have much more trouble with Tech. I just don't understand why Evans gets any grief when you can point out 10 starters who shouldn't play for G5 teams. Is he perfect? Nope. But he's a mile from the issue.

I personally think when a guy like that who everyone probably looks up to has the attitude he has about even playing college football (we can argue all day about that) it has an impact on the rest of the team. Again, call me an old-fashioned grump. I'm sure he's got some, if not a lot of influence in the locker room and is probably one of the "leaders" on the team. And I honestly don't think he really cares all that much about TCU, or about winning.

He might be a kid you'd want your daughter to marry, I have no idea. But I couldn't care less if he leaves the program because I don't think his presence is really helping anything.

 

[geezer]

This is honestly bizarre behavior that fits perfectly with what I expect from him at this point.

Deny/Defy is the team motto this season.

Can also apply to an ex-coach's behavior towards his ex-bosses.

 

[Moose Stuff]

Deny/Defy is the team motto this season.

Can also apply to an ex-coach's behavior towards his ex-bosses.

Team motto was also very bizarre. So it fits.

 

[jake102]

I personally think when a guy like that who everyone probably looks up to has the attitude he has about even playing college football (we can argue all day about that) it has an impact on the rest of the team. Again, call me an old-fashioned grump. I'm sure he's got some, if not a lot of influence in the locker room and is probably one of the "leaders" on the team. And I honestly don't think he really cares all that much about TCU, or about winning.

He might be a kid you'd want your daughter to marry, I have no idea. But I couldn't care less if he leaves the program because I don't think his presence is really helping anything.

I'm just not sure I believe all that. Believe GP's first public anything was a response to Evans tweet, can't imagine GP doing that for a bad locker room guy.

That being said - I view this as a total restart for TCU from coaching to players to game day, etc. I'm not losing sleep over anyone at this point.

 

[Tony Lema]

I personally think when a guy like that who everyone probably looks up to has the attitude he has about even playing college football (we can argue all day about that) it has an impact on the rest of the team. Again, call me an old-fashioned grump. I'm sure he's got some, if not a lot of influence in the locker room and is probably one of the "leaders" on the team. And I honestly don't think he really cares all that much about TCU, or about winning.

He might be a kid you'd want your daughter to marry, I have no idea. But I couldn't care less if he leaves the program because I don't think his presence is really helping anything.

Due to the respect he has garnered from his teammates, in addition to his talent, I DO care that he stays, and his presence would definitely help a lot.

 

[Moose Stuff]

Due to the respect he has garnered from his teammates, in addition to his talent, I DO care that he stays, and his presence would definitely help a lot.

Totally agree. Him staying also immediately gives the new staff some street cred in the eyes of recruits.

 

[PO Frog]

Is it possible he’s autistic?

 

[Mean Purple]

I’m just trying to apply it to any other job. I mean picture the office where you work (assuming you work in an office)….. Someone quits on the spot and storms out today after being told they are being let go at the end of the year but then they show back up to work tomorrow to hang out for a little bit. That’s not even remotely normal.

Most coaches exiting before end of season, or, say, before a bowl game, usually meet with staff to hand over plans, etc.

 

[TopFrog]

I’m just trying to apply it to any other job. I mean picture the office where you work (assuming you work in an office)….. Someone quits on the spot and storms out today after being told they are being let go at the end of the year but then they show back up to work tomorrow to hang out for a little bit. That’s not even remotely normal.

Maybe it didn't go down quite like that.

 

[Moose Stuff]

Maybe it didn't go down quite like that.

I hope it didn’t

 

[Wexahu]

I'm just not sure I believe all that. Believe GP's first public anything was a response to Evans tweet, can't imagine GP doing that for a bad locker room guy.

That being said - I view this as a total restart for TCU from coaching to players to game day, etc. I'm not losing sleep over anyone at this point.

Right about that last part.

As soon as this new coach is hired, he needs to start establishing the way he does things, and anyone who isn't bought in 100% needs to leave. And then he'll go find his guys to fill in whatever holes there are. That's the only way this thing gets turned around. I don't care about "needs" on the depth chart right now, those will get filled in time.

I just don't think Evans is going to ever be one of those guys that buys in, I think he has his own agenda. And again, he's gone after next year anyway.

 

[Moose Stuff]

Just to lighten the mood