fanatical frog
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Stand by for ram.
Zona to Big 12 heating up
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Stand by for ram.
Inviting those schools when Bowlsby did provided much needed stability when the conference desperately needed it. It also set up BY with the opportunity to be proactive on the TV side….which bring us to where we are now.
I will not dump on UC, BYU, UCF nor UH. I’m glad they’re here.
Fight me.
NF
froginmn
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Right, but Notre Dame isn't truly indy. They have played an ACC schedule and added tougher teams to non con (UGA, tOSU, Wisconsin, Michigan along with USC and Stanford) to make themselves worthy of playoff consideration.
Why wouldn't they be able to continue doing this by playing Stanford and USC non-con after those two switch conferences?
Edit: Stanford isn't on their non-con in 25 or 26 right now.
Frozen Frog
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I’ve got more.
Casey T
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Completely agree with this. The thing is, Stanford does not have a ton of ppl who tune in to watch them. Their football tv numbers are not impressive
fanatical frog
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Me too. No fight from here.
Endless Purple
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Curious, but based on what source?
According to this one, Stanford did quite well over the 8 year period analyzed. 3rd in the PAC.
How Many Viewers Did Your NCAA Team Attract?
We take a look at EVERY FBS team and also compare league by league! Who's the top ten in viewership? How do the ACC schools rank relative to each other? How big a boost does Alabama give the SEC West? It's all inside.
HG73
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Neither is their attendance. It's in the 30s.
Skobuffs85
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Think so? Not sure what schools would be willing to join a conference with lopsided payouts.
HG73
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You mean other than smu, sds, unlv, Fresno....
froginaustin
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HG73
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Beat you to it.
Froglaw
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No way Jose!
Get Washington and Oregon now!
Tom Landry and Tex Schram football theory, get the best that is on the board.
That is why Tex pushed hard for the NFL Eastern Conference. in 1960.
Big12 gets UW and the good OU - set for the next 10 years.
Froglaw
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You mean the 9th grader?
Skobuffs85
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Yeah, I guess. But what is the P12 going to get every year if it stays at 9 and adds 3 of those if it’s 20 like reported? Oregon and Washington want what? 32? 35 a year? So knock off 24-30 million off the total and those other 3 are looking at splitting 36 million? They make 8 now and have to pay 20-30 million to leave the MWC?
12*20 a year = 240 million.
20/9 remaining teams = 180
unequal 24 million share = 204 million.
240-204 = 36 million.
I suppose some of the remaining 9 would be willing to chip in to keep it together but who knows. I can’t imagine they want to bend over for Oregon and Washington but may not have a choice.
82 Frog Fever
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I think I see what you mean.
I guess ND could continue to play where they are, which imo, is a mediocre ACC SOS that is subsidized by a tougher OOC schedule for CFP rankings. And they could continue to play USC, Stanford, whoever non-conference. However, last I saw, they are asking $65—$70m and NBC is offering $45-$50m. They‘re kind of far apart with no movement in a couple weeks.
If ND moved to the B10, they would already have the appropriate SOS, and could schedule group teams for OOC to provide some slack in the schedule, and make a whole lot more money.
B10 payouts are planned to be $73m in ‘24 and $100m by 2030.
If ND doesn’t move soon, Indiana University will be making nearly double what ND makes.
I know the schedule hasn’t filled in yet, possibly because neither ND or Stanford has a media deal (no clue), but there is a placeholder. Stanford has only scheduled 2 ooc games & ND has only scheduled 5 game dates.
Eight
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all for dumping on uh and byu, but also all for acknowledging that without adding those 4, the b12 doesn't get that contract, and wo that contract we aren't having this discussion
Spike
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We played them there in 2007 and they were actually bragging about no TV for the game. Was supposed to be some kind of special occasion. Probably the last time I've listened to our excellent radio crew in years. Never understood that logic.
Spike
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Don't know all the details but I remember the term getting thrown around a lot back in the pre-big 12 days. Related more to the non-revenue sports. We had a much smaller budget then plus we were really far away from most of our conference mates. I think we partnered w/UH back in the C-USA days but don't hold me to that.
