Land Frog
Darn baylor!
I'll be polite. However, if I get drawn offsides by a not-so-polite buckeye then consider I have standing since I lived in Ohio ~3.5 years.
TCU-Ohio State gets ABC Primetime, UT to play Alabama, other non-conference notes
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TCUdirtbag
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Good lord, can we not give the buckeye a hard time? Feel free to remove the stick from your ass.
Casey T
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Can you give a brief analysis on your returning starters and returning players who had significant play time last year? From what I've read, you'll have about a dozen coming back.
netty2424
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Didn't realize Aruba was still a thing. Nice place?
Ear worm.......Aruba, Jamaica, ooooohh I wanna take ya to Bermuda, Bahamas, c'mon pretty momma.......
netty2424
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Not sure there is really much of an edge for either QB.
Looking back at 247 Rankings, since that was the lowest ranking*** for both TCU and tOSU 'current' QB's, to first year D1 stats:
Dwayne Haskins(redshirt 2016, Soph) :
6'3", 218lbs
Pro style ranked 7
Limited college experience.
2017- appeared in 8 games, 565 yards total, 5 of those games were at home representing 400 yards, and 3 of 4 TD's at home. Played against 1 AP ranked opponent.
Shawn Robinson(no redshirt, Soph)**:
6'2", 225lbs
Dual threat ranked 6,
Limited college experience.
2017 - W against Texas Tech as a starter, appeared in 6 games, 184 yards total, 2 of those ganes were at home. 1 of 3 TD's at home. Played against 1 AP ranked opponent.
To tOSU, this is a tough game they might overlook somewhat . To TCU it's a huge game that gives us another win against a blue blood.
For both, it can be that OOC catalyst into a CFP birth.
**assuming SR is named the starter.
EDIT:*** correction, ESPN had Shawn Robinson ranked 8.
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flyfishingfrog
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Guessing you don’t get the betting line concept - first, he is about +3500 on most sites I have seen and second, that makes him about 15th on the list and way behind the favorite at +750. He is not the top QBs on the list. Actually I think he may about as low on the list for a starting QB at tOSU in a decade- it could just say generic “tOSU starter” instead a specific player and it would have about those odds.
Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
Frog-in-law1995
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Yeah, but we spell better.
Froginbedford
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Martinique, that Montserrat mystique....
Visiting Buckeye
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At quarterback, JT Barrett is gone and people are excited about Haskins. He will be the first pro style quarterback Ohio State has had in a while. Now that Joe Burrow has transferred to LSU, the depth is not as it has been in previous years. At receiver we have all 6 who saw significant time returning, granted Ohio State receivers have been under performing since the 2014 championship season. Many hope that will change with JT Barrett gone. At running back there is JK Dobbins and Mike Weber returning. Right now on the surface it is being said that there will be an even split of carries between the two, many believe the true sophomore JK Dobbins will pull away with the majority of the carries. At offensive line, the only player who did not have significant playing time last year was red shirt senior who will be playing center. Unlike previous years, this offensive line should have depth in case of injury.
On defense the defensive line should lead the way again this year. It will be hard for teams to double team Nick Bosa like they did his older brother. Chase Young is looking to be the next breakout Ohio State defensive end, although he did see limited reps last year. At defensive tackle Dre'Mont Jones is a returning starter and Robert Landers rotated last year. At linebacker an achilles injury to middle linebacker Tuf Borland, that will most likely keep him out of the TCU game, will hurt the linebacking corp as they performed much better last year when he started. The linebacker position has me the most worried because of injury and lack of experience. Not to mention, linebacker play was one of the many reasons I had to drink my sorrows away last year against Iowa. In the defensive backfield the corners both have significant experience as they started or rotated last year. The biggest question mark will be at strong safety with true sophomore Isaiah Pryor who has no significant playing time at the position.
netty2424
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What's the story on 5* LB Baron Browning? Local kid who spent a ton of time on TCU campus before committing to tOSU.
Visiting Buckeye
Member
He is projected to start with Tuf Borland injured, possibly in rotation with Justin Hilliard. Played only on special teams last year. He was a huge get in recruiting so hopefully he has a break out year this year.
Visiting Buckeye
Member
I checked Bovada immediately before posting and it was at +2200. It may have been higher earlier when the QB battle wasn't settled between him and Burrow. I am not saying I think he will win the Heisman, I am simply comparing him to Robinson who I did not see listed on Bovada to bet on for the Heisman.
Jefffrog1993
KMA
TCU will win it just means more and matters more to TCU. Speed beats size!
Purp
Active Member
Bovada clearly knows nobody would place bets on Shawn Robinson whether he is or isn't better than the QB at tOSU. Using Vegas odds for the Heisman to compare talent/quality at the QB position is like using the Academy Awards to measure the quality of movies. Tommy Boy, Major League, and CaddyShack won exactly ZERO Oscars, but are among the greatest movies ever made.
RollToad
Baylor is Trash.
And Tremors.
Visiting Buckeye
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I understand that the odds will be skewed in Ohio State players favor some due to having the brand name, but that doesn't mean it can be completely discredited. There are other quarterbacks on that list of players to bet on from schools that don't have the high power brand name. I'm just using the information we have now on both players, albeit limited, to try to make an argument to the original reply to my post that said TCU had the advantage at quarterback. The movies you mentioned not winning, especially Tommy Boy, is one of the many reasons I pay no attention to the Oscars.
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RollToad
Baylor is Trash.
Ok, you’re Wexahu.
Purp
Active Member
How many of those quarterbacks from other schools without brand recognition are about to start for their first year of their career?
Hoosierfrog
Tier 1
Not saying TCU will win, but this is almost word for word what we heard from Wisconsin prior to the Rose Bowl when the talent level disparity was allegedly off the charts...
RollToad
Baylor is Trash.
Then JJ Watt cried.
