I don’t understand how a kid can spend 3-4 years in college supposedly working and training every day, and by the time they are done they don’t really know how to run pass routes well, or are “clueless” about it. Even if the offense doesn’t really “require” it, wouldn’t it still be helpful? And what else are they doing with their time? What are the WR coaches teaching them? Nothing?
And I’m not just talking about TCU. It’s prevalent throughout college football, receivers who don’t really have a clue about technical route running entering the draft.
You could say that about a lot of students in every discipline. I knew a lot of musicians that were very talented but never wanted to deep dive into music theory or put in the time to focus on their sight reading skills (a necessary skill for studio musicians) because they thought their raw talent was enough to win auditions.
So would I, but with a player like Reagor do you bench him because he isn’t putting in the time or play him and hope for the best on Saturday because your other options aren’t as talented? I have a feeling that if Reagor’s dad wasn’t a part of the equation he might have seen the bench more often. I can’t explain why else Patterson would tolerate a WR with 6 fumbles and poor route running getting so much playing time given how players like Hunt, Lynn, and Stephens were in the dog house following minor on field mental lapses.Ok, but it's not about players "wanting" to or not. How about coaches demanding it of their players? Do they just not know how to do it? Or not think it's important? If I were a college WR coach and I had a kid in my program for 4 years and at the end of that time an NFL scout had determined that my player "had no clue how to run a route" I'd be embarrassed as hell.
So would I, but with a player like Reagor do you bench him because he isn’t putting in the time or play him and hope for the best on Saturday because your other options aren’t as talented? I have a feeling that if Reagor’s dad wasn’t a part of the equation he might have seen the bench more often. I can’t explain why else Patterson would tolerate a WR with 6 fumbles and poor route running getting so much playing time given how players like Hunt, Lynn, and Stephens were in the dog house following minor on field mental lapses.
I'd explain to him the expectations and the importance of mastering the art of route running and how that is his ticket to the NFL, and I'd probably bring in an NFL guy to talk to the guys and confirm what I was talking about. And then if my player still didn't want to put in the effort to improve that part of his game, I'd probably bench him.
This is the dilemma TCU faces because we don't stack up 5-star recruits at every position like some can. . . Saban can take guys with marginal work ethic coming out of HS and sincerely tell them nobody gives a [ Cumbie’s red zone playcalling ] about your stars, you put in the work or ride the pine.
Several years ago there was a DL from Arlington Heights who was super-talented and had a rep for being super-lazy. The predictions were he'd go to UT (Mack Brown) and wind up worthless. Instead he went to Bama and became A-A, and IIRC, a 1st-round pick.
I think it is a combination of coaching and our offense not requiring crisp route running. Probably one of the reason Doctson struggled so much, remember it was one of his weaknesses coming out.
I think you're trying to equate "targets" with "balls that Reagor could have come down with". That's not the case. Surely you aren't suggesting that he had 8 drops against Baylor and 6 drops against OU? Or 50 drops on the season? A lot of his "targets" were balls that he had no chance at. Some drops, yes, but not most.
What did I want us to do differently? Figure out a better way for our QB to get the ball to him. We didn't do that.
you mean like an outside receivers coach that played in the NFL?????I'd explain to him the expectations and the importance of mastering the art of route running and how that is his ticket to the NFL, and I'd probably bring in an NFL guy to talk to the guys and confirm what I was talking about. And then if my player still didn't want to put in the effort to improve that part of his game, I'd probably bench him.
you mean like an outside receivers coach that played in the NFL?????
So would I, but with a player like Reagor do you bench him because he isn’t putting in the time or play him and hope for the best on Saturday because your other options aren’t as talented? I have a feeling that if Reagor’s dad wasn’t a part of the equation he might have seen the bench more often. I can’t explain why else Patterson would tolerate a WR with 6 fumbles and poor route running getting so much playing time given how players like Hunt, Lynn, and Stephens were in the dog house following minor on field mental lapses.
Troll identified.Well crap. I hate to Reagor leave. Without him, well probably go 2-10 next season and not make a bowl for the 2nd straight year
Well crap. I hate to Reagor leave. Without him, well probably go 2-10 next season and not make a bowl for the 2nd straight year
Kerley also was the best QB option on some of those Jets teamsI always think of Reagor as similar to Jeremy Kerley. I thought Jeremy would light it up in the NFL and he didn't stick around nearly as long as I thought he would. He was quick, elusive, and sure handed, and seemed to be a committed hard worker. On those four qualities, I think Jeremy had JR beat and he struggled to stick in the NFL. It will be interesting to see what happens, but I am not going to bet the house on it. He has a mentor in his father who had a long career, so maybe he can get it done. I hope he does and I wish him the best. It is just so hard to catch the needed break.
I always think of Reagor as similar to Jeremy Kerley. I thought Jeremy would light it up in the NFL and he didn't stick around nearly as long as I thought he would. He was quick, elusive, and sure handed, and seemed to be a committed hard worker. On those four qualities, I think Jeremy had JR beat and he struggled to stick in the NFL. It will be interesting to see what happens, but I am not going to bet the house on it. He has a mentor in his father who had a long career, so maybe he can get it done. I hope he does and I wish him the best. It is just so hard to catch the needed break.