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Uhhh...Dixon to UCLA rumor/ news

Discussion in 'Scott & Wes Frog Fan Forum' started by Francis Xav, Apr 3, 2019.

  1. Exactly. LOL
     

  2. 2) dying before you get served with the money laundering and conspiracy indictment doesn't mean you're not guilty.

    1) you forgot part of the story:

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la...p-0609-wooden-gilbert-20100609-story,amp.html

    Gilbert's influence ultimately helped land UCLA basketball on NCAA probation. In December 1981, UCLA was cited for nine infractions and received two years' probation, which included a one-year NCAA tournament ban and an order to vacate its 1980 NCAA national title game appearance against Louisville.

    The most serious allegation levied against Gilbert was that he co-signed a promissory note so a player could buy a car. The NCAA ordered UCLA to disassociate Gilbert from its recruiting process. Larry Brown was UCLA's basketball coach in 1980; none of the violations were tied to Wooden's era.

    A 1981 Times investigative series, which interviewed 45 people connected with the basketball program, established Gilbert as "a one-man clearing house who has enabled players and their families to receive goods and services usually at big discounts and sometimes at no cost."

    The paper quoted Brent Clark, an NCAA field investigator who said that, in 1977, he was told to drop his case in Westwood. "If I had spent a month in Los Angeles, I could have put them on indefinite suspension," he said of UCLA. An NCAA spokesman disputed this claim, saying that Clark was living a "fantasy world."

    The Times established that Gilbert, during Wooden's heyday, helped players get cars, clothes, airline tickets and scalpers' prices for UCLA season tickets. Gilbert allegedly even arranged abortions for players' girlfriends.

    One former UCLA All-American told The Times: "What do you want me to say? That's my school. I don't want to see them take away all those championships." Gilbert considered many NCAA rules arcane and silly.
     
  3. Can you stop using facts and quotes please
     
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  4. Gosh. It was just four short years after that that the Texas A&M QB was confronted with paperwork that a booster had bought him a shiny new Camaro. A&M was on probation at the time.

    Nothing ever happened.
     
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  5. Which means that the other paragraphs you didn't quote probably figured in:

    A 1981 Times investigative series, which interviewed 45 people connected with the basketball program, established Gilbert as "a one-man clearing house who has enabled players and their families to receive goods and services usually at big discounts and sometimes at no cost."

    The Times established that Gilbert, during Wooden's heyday, helped players get cars, clothes, airline tickets and scalpers' prices for UCLA season tickets. Gilbert allegedly even arranged abortions for players' girlfriends.



    It's amazing to me how some people can look at the fact that the NCAA, which notoriously doesn't act, chose to put the preeminent basketball program on probation and vacated a Final Four appearance, and can somehow determine that they must have done nothing wrong.
     
  6. I agree Beard doesn't get much media attention, at least not yet. I would assume, though, AD's around the country are giving him plenty of attention and consideration.
     
  7. I listened to two ESPN podcasts yesterday and both of them mentioned Beard as a top 5 coach.
     
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  8. Proving that we live in a “what have you done lately world” and exactly why people are quick to contrast Beard and JDs tenures at their current schools..
     
  9. I don't think I've ever listened to a podcast about anything so I can't speak to what may be said on those. It just seems like the general sports media doesn't pay much attention to anything in Lubbock. It's one of the more redeeming qualities of the media.
     
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  10. Wooden was always a good coach but his first 14 years or so at UCLA were not spectacular, making the tournament three times. Maybe coincidence but the program really taking off coincided with the arrival of Gilbert on the scene early 60’s. Dealing later on with the corruption was hard for everybody to deal with including the NCAA because of the Wooden dynasty / legacy.
     
  11. Par for the course...
     
  12. Make them pay the 8 million....do not budge one penny.
     
  13. ADJD is earning some street cred with the Frog Alums right now for not blinking on this. Dixon will get over it by November.
     
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  14. I tend to agree with this but others have said that the # is more like the starting point of negotiation. I don't get that. If you know you're likely going to have to negotiate it in the future when it's signed, why not simply say that any negotiated settlement will be between X and X if someone wants to leave. That way you have your floor and ceiling and you can hash it out. Probably not enough time for an arbitration situation in these things but if there's a number, that should be the number or you shouldn't have signed it.
     
  15. ADJD needs to Get that money...All of it...Make it hurt...Once in hand, make a fat donation to a local FW charity in UCLAs name just solidify what a bad ass he is...
     
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  16. And I thought I was bad...
     
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  17. A 1981 Times investigative series, which interviewed 45 people connected with the basketball program, established Gilbert as "a one-man clearing house who has enabled players and their families to receive goods and services usually at big discounts and sometimes at no cost."

    Oh, so this is how Sam's Club got started
     
  18. No, make the donation in USC's name, just to twist the knife even further.
     
  19. No one here really cares about Gilbert, man.
     
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  20. Yeah, but she did mind the small size and your BO. But you only lasted a minute, so the suffering was minimal.
     
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