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Houston Frog

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I was talking about this with some friends and couldn't come to a conclusion.....

What level of male competition could this UCONN team could beat. I think we can all agree that the Duke mens team that just won the national title would beat them, and I think we can all agree that a standard 8th grade boys team would lose to them.

So somewhere in between is a level of male competition that is equivalent to this women's team. Where do y'all think that is?
 
Trelvis

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The Texas High School State Championship team would beat them. Girls cant play above the rim like the men do.
 
TheSheik

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QUOTE(Houston Frog @ Apr 7 2010, 09:04 AM) [snapback]541599[/snapback]
I was talking about this with some friends and couldn't come to a conclusion.....

What level of male competition could this UCONN team could beat. I think we can all agree that the Duke mens team that just won the national title would beat them, and I think we can all agree that a standard 8th grade boys team would lose to them.

So somewhere in between is a level of male competition that is equivalent to this women's team. Where do y'all think that is?



They could probably beat an average high school boys team.
 
talor

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In a somewhat related matter...this reminds me of those arguments where people think USC or BAMA or UT in a given year could beat the worst NFL team such as Detroit ala 2008. The lunacy of some people is alarming.

As for the original topic. I bet they could beat some D3 teams. For example, I looked at the roster for University of Dallas and I think that would be a good matchup!

University of Dallas roster

UCONN Womens roster
 
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Houston Frog

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QUOTE(TCUTalor @ Apr 7 2010, 09:19 AM) [snapback]541615[/snapback]
As for the original topic. I bet they could beat some D3 teams. For example, I looked at the roster for University of Dallas and I think that would be a good matchup!

University of Dallas roster

UCONN Womens roster


That's funny, my brother played for University of Dallas before transferring 2 years ago, I know some of those kids on that roster
 
FeistyFrog

FeistyFrog

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QUOTE(SnoSkiDrew @ Apr 7 2010, 09:24 AM) [snapback]541617[/snapback]
I doubt TCU men could beat them



We'd give them a good game though...
 
TheSheik

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QUOTE(TCUTalor @ Apr 7 2010, 09:19 AM) [snapback]541615[/snapback]
In a somewhat related matter...this reminds me of those arguments where people think USC or BAMA or UT in a given year could beat the worst NFL team such as Detroit ala 2008. The lunacy of some people is alarming.

As for the original topic. I bet they could beat some D3 teams. For example, I looked at the roster for University of Dallas and I think that would be a good matchup!

University of Dallas roster

UCONN Womens roster



I'd put my money on University of Dallas
 
satis1103

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Think about the size matchups - at least 2-3 players on each of those men's teams (maybe UD the exception) would be the equivalent of a faster, stronger, higher-jumping Brittney Griner. There could be more, depending on the squad. For example - TCU this past year would have thrown out there at various times Buljan, Cerina, Green in the frontcourt. All 6'7" and up. Griner is 6'8". Heck, Ruzgas and Butler are at least 6'4". You could throw five 6'4"+ players out there at once.

You saw the issues that Griner caused UConn, 5 blocks and a dozen other influenced shots. She didn't score as much as she normally did, and the Baylor team didn't do enough as a whole to beat UConn, but imagine four Griner clones running around out there with her.

In a matchup like that, the women's team couldn't score inside at all. They would have to jack up threes. And with 6'+ guards running around (as well as the lack of quick shots I see sometimes in the women's game) how many of those would be blocked/altered?
How could the UConn women put up even 40 in a game like that?
 
satis1103

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QUOTE(Houston Frog @ Apr 7 2010, 10:01 AM) [snapback]541649[/snapback]
Yeah, I don't think they could beat any legit D-1 team, but I wonder about some of the upper level high school teams.

I haven't played or watched HS Basketball in a loooong time - how prevalent are mid-six footers out there on these types of squads? Any of 'em stacked with manimals?
 
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QUOTE(Houston Frog @ Apr 7 2010, 09:01 AM) [snapback]541649[/snapback]
<br />Yeah, I don't think they could beat any legit D-1 team, but I wonder about some of the upper level high school teams.<br />


High level HS teams would kill them. UCONN would struggle to get shots off. Maybe 1A ,d 2A teams. Name a 3A, 4A or 5A district and they wouldn't have a winning record in a full season. The boys are quicker, stronger, run faster, jump higher... Wouldn't be close.
 
TheSheik

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QUOTE(satis1103 @ Apr 7 2010, 11:09 AM) [snapback]541678[/snapback]
I think a better question is: could Brittney Griner play D1 MENS basketball? :biggrin:



even better question: Who wins in a fist fight between Griner and Zoubek from Duke?
 
HoustonHornedFrog

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QUOTE(satis1103 @ Apr 7 2010, 10:05 AM) [snapback]541652[/snapback]
I haven't played or watched HS Basketball in a loooong time - how prevalent are mid-six footers out there on these types of squads? Any of 'em stacked with manimals?



By way of example the Houston Yates team which just won its second straight 4A Texas state title has 5 players listed between 6'4" and 6'9" and 4 more that are either 6'2" or 6'3". Uconn women have one 6'4" one 6'3" and one 6'2". IMHO the Yates boys would destroy the Uconn women. As others here have said, they would have a had time getting shots off against a good high school guys team like this.
 
byuhog

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It's actually a reasonable and fun question-kinda like how would the national champs do in football(CF) against the worst NFL team?

Well, the NC would lose, but what would the game look like might be a better question...

IMO-The UCONN women's team could beat some top high level high school men's teams. And I am not sure who Yates is, BUT they wouldn't whip UCONN. I doubt it. Maybe win by 10 if they won.

One thing you guys are forgetting is that this women's team actually has players who are quite physical-hit the weights AND have the coaching and skills to boot.

I could see the lady Huskies losing a game to an excellent high school men's team, but there's teams they could beat IMO.

You're talking about some of the most talented women in the nation at UCONN-they tend to get the best recruits of all the programs out there overall. They are a powerhouse.

Not only that, but those women and college players in general tend to put in a lot more time than high school players..

I recall playing a pick-up game with a former college lady basketball player from Grambling, I think here in Gainesville, TX. She outweighed me and was more physical than you'd think on defense, etc.. She was strong. No joke.

So what I am trying to say is don't discount the level of skill, physicality and coaching that the TOP collegiate level lady's team has.

The women at this level have a far better understanding of the mental game than most high school players, etc.. and what to do.

I understand there are some excellent men's high school basketball teams out there, but not everyone has 5 players at 6'8 and not every one knows HOW to play as a team like the women's UCONN team does.

Collegiately-I think the lady Huskies would beat some NAIA teams and even some DIV-I, II and III teams. Not a top-25 men's team though(Div-I).

It would be awful fun to see them have an exhibition game against a good TX high school men's team-5A, etc.. :)
 
TheSheik

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QUOTE(byuhog @ Apr 7 2010, 12:22 PM) [snapback]541728[/snapback]
IMO-The UCONN women's team could beat some top high level high school men's teams. And I am not sure who Yates is, BUT they wouldn't whip UCONN. I doubt it. Maybe win by 10 if they won.



Yes they would, it would be something to the tune of 170-20, Im not kidding.


As to the rest of your post, its not really as issue of height, its an issue of athletisicm. I think they could beat some average high school teams, but they would get run out of the gym by most good high school teams. The only way they would beat good high school teams is if they shot lights out and made like 70% of their threes IMO.
 
byuhog

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QUOTE(TheSheik @ Apr 7 2010, 02:00 PM) [snapback]541777[/snapback]
Yes they would, it would be something to the tune of 170-20, Im not kidding.


As to the rest of your post, its not really as issue of height, its an issue of athletisicm. I think they could beat some average high school teams, but they would get run out of the gym by most good high school teams. The only way they would beat good high school teams is if they shot lights out and made like 70% of their threes IMO.


That's a massive exaggeration Sheik. Surely even you don't or shouldn't believe that Yates would score 170 pts on a team that would play way better defense on them than some joe-schmoe high school team that Yates could drop a 100 on...

UConn's whole team IS athletic and they train much harder than most men's high school teams. This isn't football were' talking about with guys going to the gym every day to hit the weights.. Each one of those gals is basically a high school all-star and almost every one of them can shoot lights out and has excellent fundamentals, which is largely lacking in high school basketball across the board.


well, how bout we just challenge Auriemma to let his Husky ladies play a good high school TX team in an exhibition game sometime? :)

What I think would happen is a team like Yates with plenty of good athletes would find Uconn bombing 3 or 4 threes in their face before they started to wake up and stop playing soft basketball. They'd pass the ball inside, kick it back out, find holes on the defense and whoosh.. Most high school teams and players these days don't -play great defense or team defense. Look at the McDonalds AA game with the boys.. It's offense, offense, offense usually.. people wanting to be ball hogs and showboats a lot. Am I right there or what?

Uconn would be a better transition team than many high school mens' teams.

And they would actually play some defense. Especially team defense. Maybe they'd have to go zone and elbow a few guys in the ribs and play a little dirty, but you know what-I bet the women's team would play with a chip on their shoulder and they'd try to prove a point.

If the refs let the ladies play physical-how would the guys respond to a tough physical game from women? They might even push some of those skinny dudes around. Have you seen the center for Uconn? Man-i'd hate to get elbowed by her...

I think it would be very interesting and would love to see it.

Sure, Uconn would have a harder time getting off shots, but they would be fast to adjust I think and still find ways to score.

I have a hard time believing Uconn couldn't score at least 35-40 pts on Yates. Even if it was 10 threes or more... And I think they would catch them off guard- suprise them, at how good they are, before they woke up and started playing good ball.
 

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