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2314@work

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QUOTE(TheSheik @ Apr 8 2010, 10:49 AM) [snapback]542081[/snapback]
No, I really wasnt trying to exaggerate, I really believe the score would be something like that. Women just cant match up to men athletically, its just a fact of life. Which is why the womens world record in the 100 meters is like 10.5 while men in high school are running 10 flat 100's. The only way they score 35-40 points is if they jacked up 3's all game (and somehow got them off) and hit about 70% of them.

Yes, their fundamentals are better, but the reason men are lacking in fundamentals these days is because the game is so much more athletic and above the rim that the need for fundamentals has gone out the window (which is why you see good players become more fundamentally sound when they get older and lose their athleticism). I think the Uconn women might be able to play with some average high school boys teams, but thats about it.

Only way to find out is to stage an actual game.
I would pay to see you clowns have your mouths closed :laugh:
 

gdu

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QUOTE(2314 @ Apr 8 2010, 03:55 PM) [snapback]542091[/snapback]
Only way to find out is to stage an actual game.
I would pay to see you clowns have your mouths closed :laugh:

we get it, you love women's basketball. No one else is impressed by it.
 

2314@work

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QUOTE(tcugdu @ Apr 8 2010, 11:10 AM) [snapback]542102[/snapback]
we get it, you love women's basketball. No one else is impressed by it.

Maybe it would close my mouth. I think it is all pitiful speculation.
Just think if it did happen how much pressure there would be on those high school boys.
I realize you and others don't know this, but college women's teams play men in practice routinely. Never heard of them getting dominated.
But hey, gdu, if this thread makes you and others feel more manly then more power to y'all, I guess.
 

gdu

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QUOTE(2314 @ Apr 8 2010, 04:13 PM) [snapback]542104[/snapback]
Maybe it would close my mouth. I think it is all pitiful speculation.
Just think if it did happen how much pressure there would be on those high school boys.
I realize you and others don't know this, but college women's teams play men in practice routinely. Never heard of them getting dominated.
But hey, gdu, if this thread makes you and others feel more manly then more power to y'all, I guess.

Me and others don't know that except that I played several games vs. the TCU women in the Rickel and Baylor women at their rec center. Right...
 

2314@work

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QUOTE(tcugdu @ Apr 8 2010, 11:17 AM) [snapback]542108[/snapback]
Me and others don't know that except that I played several games vs. the TCU women in the Rickel and Baylor women at their rec center. Right...

Then you should know better. Sexism is not an attractive quality.
 

gdu

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QUOTE(2314 @ Apr 8 2010, 04:25 PM) [snapback]542112[/snapback]
Then you should know better. Sexism is not an attractive quality.

That ain't sexist. There are plenty of things women are better than men at. Basketball isn't one of them.
 

Mike Brooks

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QUOTE(2314 @ Apr 8 2010, 10:13 AM) [snapback]542104[/snapback]
<br />Maybe it would close my mouth. I think it is all pitiful speculation.<br />Just think if it did happen how much pressure there would be on those high school boys.<br />I realize you and others don't know this, but college women's teams play men in practice routinely. Never heard of them getting dominated.<br />But hey, gdu, if this thread makes you and others feel more manly then more power to y'all, I guess.<br />

Not sure how much pressure the boys would when they are up 33-6 10 minutes into the game. BTW, you claim this is a worthless thread and shld be moved to The Generally Bored but you can't stop posting in it.
 

satis1103

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QUOTE(2314 @ Apr 8 2010, 11:25 AM) [snapback]542112[/snapback]
Then you should know better. Sexism is not an attractive quality.

Love ya buddy but you're likely wrong here. It's not sexism. It's fact of life. Games where finesse and brainpower outweigh physical strength, size and speed - those are games women can beat men at. Golf, bowling, curling, darts, rifle (obviously) etc. come to mind.

But would you consider the best women's football team in the U.S. even a remote threat to Southlake or Trinity? Would the best female boxer in the world even last one round against a U.S. Olympic amateur? Westling? Soccer?

Basketball is one of those games (nowadays with the shot clock) where a team who can jump out of the gym and is significantly stronger, larger, faster and more athletic than their opponent will win almost every time.

Now go get your mannibus.
 

byuhog

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QUOTE(TheSheik @ Apr 8 2010, 10:49 AM) [snapback]542081[/snapback]
No, I really wasnt trying to exaggerate, I really believe the score would be something like that. Women just cant match up to men athletically, its just a fact of life. Which is why the womens world record in the 100 meters is like 10.5 while men in high school are running 10 flat 100's. The only way they score 35-40 points is if they jacked up 3's all game (and somehow got them off) and hit about 70% of them.

Yes, their fundamentals are better, but the reason men are lacking in fundamentals these days is because the game is so much more athletic and above the rim that the need for fundamentals has gone out the window (which is why you see good players become more fundamentally sound when they get older and lose their athleticism). I think the Uconn women might be able to play with some average high school boys teams, but thats about it.


Suit yourself, but I honestly think the Uconn women would put up better overall defense than a few of those high school men's teams Yates beat up on.

I browsed Yates website a bit to learn some more.

Yep-they are back to back 4A state champs. And voted national champs. And averaged 116 pts per game.

Their defense probably averaged around 50-65 pts per game allowed.

They are not a team full of all-stars. One guy is going to Western Kentucky-not a bad program, but not my any means a Duke, KS or North Carolina.

They have 3-4 guys who are at 5-10-6-2-6'6 maybe and one guy at center who likely started and is 6'9(their tallest guy). And they are very athletic.

I think Yates would win, but if the Lady Huskies focused more on defense than offense, they could hold em to around 100. :) Fine, Yates by 25. Or more.

It would be an athletic disadvantage for them and not so much height, as you mentioned. I agree.

And the lady Huskies might not beat a top-100 Div-1 team, on revision and further thought. But they could beat some teams here and there from men's high school to collegiate and I hope Geno could schedule a fun game like that-just to see for the hell of it.

I think it would be cool to add a team like the lady Huskies or Yates for that matter to EA Sports NCAA basketball 2010-as a special add-on and tribute. And make it where you could beat most teams with good gameplay, with those teams. Be kinda cool... :)
 

2314@work

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QUOTE(faglicious @ Apr 8 2010, 11:32 AM) [snapback]542117[/snapback]
Not sure how much pressure the boys would when they are up 33-6 10 minutes into the game. BTW, you claim this is a worthless thread and shld be moved to The Generally Bored but you can't stop posting in it.

You sound like RSFs luva.
 

TPIRocks

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QUOTE(2314 @ Apr 8 2010, 02:39 PM) [snapback]542214[/snapback]
You sound like RSFs luva.



auriema wa asked if he thought his UConn womens team could beat the mens team (which was mediocre at best) and he thought it was an absolute joke.
You don't hear about how women's teams do against a group of guys in practice because it wouldn't be good for publicity for a coach to say "yeah my girls scrimmaged a bunch of guys in the rec and got beat by 27"

My cousin played basketball at Trinity Valley CC in East Texas and they had the 1999 women's national champions in JUCO. They had several girls go D1 and went unbeaten w/UConn like domination.
They played the men's intramural champions for fun (just a bunch of OK high school players not good enough to play in college) and the intramural team beat them by over 50 points.

UConn would have trouble beating a decent high school boys team much less really good ones.
 

2314@work

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QUOTE(TPIRocks @ Apr 8 2010, 04:05 PM) [snapback]542243[/snapback]
auriema wa asked if he thought his UConn womens team could beat the mens team (which was mediocre at best) and he thought it was an absolute joke.
You don't hear about how women's teams do against a group of guys in practice because it wouldn't be good for publicity for a coach to say "yeah my girls scrimmaged a bunch of guys in the rec and got beat by 27"

My cousin played basketball at Trinity Valley CC in East Texas and they had the 1999 women's national champions in JUCO. They had several girls go D1 and went unbeaten w/UConn like domination.
They played the men's intramural champions for fun (just a bunch of OK high school players not good enough to play in college) and the intramural team beat them by over 50 points.

UConn would have trouble beating a decent high school boys team much less really good ones.

Bad comparison. I am well aware of the Lady Cardinals basketball success. But they are not this UConn team.
I guess you think Yates could beat the WNBA All-stars?
 

TopFrog

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QUOTE(Spike @ Apr 7 2010, 10:42 PM) [snapback]541945[/snapback]
Why do you hate TopFrog?


Who doesn't? Even I do.
 

Spike

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QUOTE(TopFrog @ Apr 8 2010, 09:26 PM) [snapback]542249[/snapback]
Who doesn't? Even I do.


I'm a nonconformist. I refuse to hate just because everyone else does.
 

2314@work

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QUOTE(Spike @ Apr 8 2010, 04:39 PM) [snapback]542255[/snapback]
I'm a nonconformist. I refuse to hate just because everyone else does.

With the lone exception of UT
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Spike

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QUOTE(2314 @ Apr 8 2010, 09:40 PM) [snapback]542258[/snapback]
With the lone exception of UT
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Actually I was a bit of a Tshirt fan until I went back to school. Most arrogant fan base I've ever dealt with, and not just about their school. Worked with a bunch at one of my more recent jobs. Some were good workers, others not so much, but almost all had an air of superiority about them.
 

Spike

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QUOTE(2314 @ Apr 8 2010, 09:40 PM) [snapback]542258[/snapback]
With the lone exception of UT
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And BTW, why do you hate Walmart?
 

OmniscienceFrog

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QUOTE(TheSheik @ Apr 8 2010, 10:49 AM) [snapback]542081[/snapback]
No, I really wasnt trying to exaggerate, I really believe the score would be something like that. Women just cant match up to men athletically, its just a fact of life. Which is why the womens world record in the 100 meters is like 10.5 while men in high school are running 10 flat 100's. The only way they score 35-40 points is if they jacked up 3's all game (and somehow got them off) and hit about 70% of them.

Yes, their fundamentals are better, but the reason men are lacking in fundamentals these days is because the game is so much more athletic and above the rim that the need for fundamentals has gone out the window (which is why you see good players become more fundamentally sound when they get older and lose their athleticism). I think the Uconn women might be able to play with some average high school boys teams, but thats about it.


I don't know what style of defense Yates plays, but I'm going to guess there's a lot of full court pressure and that is where the UConn women would have problems. They would have trouble getting the ball upcourt against that kind of swarming speed. Doty, I think it is, that plays the point for UConn's women, could not handle that kind of pressure and the Yates boys would be dunking and shooting layups off steals and turnovers all day long.

Fundamentals serve you well against equal talent, but when there is a massive difference in talent between two teams the one with the talent edge will win every time, especially when the talented team is also a lot bigger, stronger and faster than the less talented team.

In a game evenly officiated, the UConn women would have no chance against a top nationally ranked boys high school team.
 

Frogs1983

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QUOTE(TheSheik @ Apr 7 2010, 09:08 AM) [snapback]541604[/snapback]
They could probably beat an average high school boys team.

Not so sure they couldn't beat our men's BB team? :wacko: Just Jidding!I think.
 

gdu

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QUOTE(OmniscienceFrog @ Apr 9 2010, 01:31 AM) [snapback]542315[/snapback]
I don't know what style of defense Yates plays, but I'm going to guess there's a lot of full court pressure and that is where the UConn women would have problems. They would have trouble getting the ball upcourt against that kind of swarming speed. Doty, I think it is, that plays the point for UConn's women, could not handle that kind of pressure and the Yates boys would be dunking and shooting layups off steals and turnovers all day long.

Fundamentals serve you well against equal talent, but when there is a massive difference in talent between two teams the one with the talent edge will win every time, especially when the talented team is also a lot bigger, stronger and faster than the less talented team.

In a game evenly officiated, the UConn women would have no chance against a top nationally ranked boys high school team.

Yates presses the whole game. Lots of turnovers and lots of real quick offensive possessions. UCon wouldn't be able to keep up in transition defense.
 
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