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JogginFrog

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TCU women are on the course for round 2 of the Bettie Lou Evans Invitational at Keene Trace outside Lexington, Kentucky. The course, which hosts the PGA Tour's Barbasol Championship, seems like a tough setup--at +7, the Frogs have a 3-shot lead over Louisville and Illinois.

The Frogs have a nice shot at a trophy here. The only ranked team in the field is host Kentucky (preseason #26), which shot +17 in round 1.

Kirstin Angosta is tied for the individual lead at -2. Megan Winans and Sofie Dimitrova are also in the top 15. Dimitrova is playing as an individual, one of 4 in the top 12 after round 1. Amazing to see how motivated players are when they get left out of a team's starting lineup.

Scoring (by Clippd, the NCAA-favored system which is still a far cry from Golfstat): https://scoreboard.clippd.com/tournament-leaderboard/233122/scoring/hole?round=2
 
JogginFrog

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Frog women extend their lead in Kentucky to 6 shots. Kirstin Angosta is solo 2nd and Sofia Barroso Sa is T3 after a 69. Camille Min-Gaultier also broke par and is T17.

Houston is in 2nd and would be ahead of the Frogs--by 5 or 6 shots--if their coach had put the tournament leader into their starting lineup instead of playing her as an individual.

Final round tomorrow.
 
JogginFrog

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Frogs win in Kentucky with an impressive final round. It's not easy to spend two full days at the front of the pack. Caution creeps in while others are chasing. Outside of top-10 teams, it's rare to see a women's team put its competition to bed early.

But TCU did that today. They turned a six-shot lead into a 14-shot lead by the time they made the turn, and they never showed a sign of faltering. The Frogs shot even-par for the second straight day and won by 12--beating the field by at least one shot per player, per day. Kirstin Angosta shot 70 to finish solo second; Sofia Barroso Sa shot 72 to finish T3. Those two made 6 birdies against no bogeys on holes 5-9 to shut the door. Megan Winans shot 71 to earn her second straight top-15 finish, and all six Frogs finished in the top half of the field.

Congrats, ladies! Well earned.

 
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First Tee Frog

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JogginFrog said:
Frogs win in Kentucky with an impressive final round. It's not easy to spend two full days at the front of the pack. Caution creeps in while others are chasing. Outside of top-10 teams, it's rare to see a women's team put its competition to bed early.

But TCU did that today. They turned a six-shot lead into a 14-shot lead by the time they made the turn, and they never showed a sign of faltering. The Frogs shot even-par for the second straight day and won by 12--beating the field by at least one shot per player, per day. Kirstin Angosta shot 70 to finish solo second; Sofia Barroso Sa shot 72 to finish T3. Those two made 6 birdies against no bogeys on holes 5-9 to shut the door. Megan Winans shot 71 to earn her second straight top-15 finish, and all six Frogs finished in the top half of the field.

Congrats, ladies! Well earned.

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It’s been fun to see Kirstin come on. When she got on campus her golf swing was in shambles from the player she had been as a junior. It really wasn’t hard to get it back to where she had been but took 4-5 months. I talked to her old coach last spring and he made a comment about how he just wasn’t sure she was good enough. Told him I thought she was going to be just fine (Left out the part about if she had kept doing what he wanted her to do she had no chance). Such a great kid and fantastic personality.
 
JogginFrog

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First Tee Frog said:
It’s been fun to see Kirstin come on. When she got on campus her golf swing was in shambles from the player she had been as a junior. It really wasn’t hard to get it back to where she had been but took 4-5 months. I talked to her old coach last spring and he made a comment about how he just wasn’t sure she was good enough. Told him I thought she was going to be just fine (Left out the part about if she had kept doing what he wanted her to do she had no chance). Such a great kid and fantastic personality.
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It's been a while, but I don't remember seeing anything in her junior results that suggested she would be a special college player. Then she showed that she could flash low for a round, but the good rounds seem to be much more consistent now.

Also seems like Winans has elevated over the summer. The knock on the women's program has been that talent comes in but often doesn't develop. Looks like that is changing. Wondering if others on staff have played key roles in that change--the second-year assistant, the new analytics guy, etc.
 
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JogginFrog said:
It's been a while, but I don't remember seeing anything in her junior results that suggested she would be a special college player. Then she showed that she could flash low for a round, but the good rounds seem to be much more consistent now.

Also seems like Winans has elevated over the summer. The knock on the women's program has been that talent comes in but often doesn't develop. Looks like that is changing. Wondering if others on staff have played key roles in that change--the second-year assistant, the new analytics guy, etc.
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Kirstin won an ajga if not two as a junior golfer

As to development. Not sure that’s true. Caitlyn, Sabrina, Annika, Emmy, Brooke, and lois all had lower scoring averages their last year on campus than their first. Think trinity was the only real whiff and non development. It’s tough. Have to almost bat 1000 because she tends to only carry 6. Usually 7 is max. Makes it tough if someone hits the skids at any point during the year.
 
JogginFrog

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First Tee Frog said:
Kirstin won an ajga if not two as a junior golfer
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Yes, at least one: https://www.ajga.org/tournaments/me...sented-by-the-thunderbirds/tournament-history

Your response had me curious to go back and check what I wrote about her on signing day in 2022:
  • Kirstin Angosta was a standout as a high school freshman and sophomore in Las Vegas. She was in the top 1,000 in WAGR for a time, but then moved to Texas (Coppell) and hasn't played as well since. This year she is averaging north of 78 per round and is ranked 214th among AJGA juniors. Possible that something impacted her game and coaches anticipate a return to form.
I also wrote that Dimitrova was the more likely signee to compete for starting time, and that Angosta and Clancy looked more like projects. Looks like I was wrong on all but the coaches anticipating a return to form...and Clancy.
 
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JogginFrog said:
Yes, at least one: https://www.ajga.org/tournaments/me...sented-by-the-thunderbirds/tournament-history

Your response had me curious to go back and check what I wrote about her on signing day in 2022:
  • Kirstin Angosta was a standout as a high school freshman and sophomore in Las Vegas. She was in the top 1,000 in WAGR for a time, but then moved to Texas (Coppell) and hasn't played as well since. This year she is averaging north of 78 per round and is ranked 214th among AJGA juniors. Possible that something impacted her game and coaches anticipate a return to form.
I also wrote that Dimitrova was the more likely signee to compete for starting time, and that Angosta and Clancy looked more like projects. Looks like I was wrong on all but the coaches anticipating a return to form...and Clancy.
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Dimitrova is still going to be a stud. She just needs rounds. Week one of their freshman year I started working with Kirstin. The guy she started working with when she moved to Texas ought to give her all her money back and issue a public apology.
 
JogginFrog

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Seems like a great time to follow TCU golf. Men and women are both in action this weekend in 54-hole events that end Monday. Men are in San Antonio, where they are 9th (of 15) after round 1 in a strong field. Women are in Norman, where they are 3rd, as is Kirstin Angosta, who shot a four-under 66 yesterday.

The women's field isn't super-deep but it's strong at the top, with two top-10 teams and three of the top 13 amateurs. Frogs look like they are going to be a presence all year if they stay healthy. Yesterday they threw out a +2 -- not a statistic that's easy to look up, but I wouldn't be surprised if you could count on one hand the number of rounds where that was true for the TCU women.

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The men are playing respectable, if not flashy, golf, with Roden, Pagdin and Beauchamp all under par.
 
JogginFrog

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Think I have to upgrade the descriptor of the TCU men's play from "respectable" to "solid" or "good." Frogs improved a shot in round 2 under more difficult conditions, posting the second-best score of the day and moving up to 5th in a field that has 9 teams from the NCAA finals last season. They are 2 shots back of the defending national champ and 3 up on the 2-seed in NCAA match play--the teams TCU is paired with in tomorrow's final round.

Jack Beauchamp is T6 after a 69; Scott Roden is T9 after a 70.

The TCU women had play suspended early Sunday; that tournament has been shortened to 36 holes.
 
JogginFrog

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TCU men dropped back to a 9th-place finish in San Antonio. Won't hurt them, but this team could be on the bubble late in the year and a top-5 finish would have boosted their profile meaningfully.

The men will be back in action next week at Colonial.

TCU women had a chance to beat top-10 Florida State; one back-nine triple turned out to be the difference. Still, four Frogs finished the tournament at par or better, and they've had a different leading scorer in each of 3 events, which speaks to the balanced lineup. Top Frog this week was freshman Camille Min-Gautier, who shot a final-round 67 to finish T11 and earn her bag (requires a sub-70 round). Kirstin Angosta also earned her bag with a first-round 66--nice to see after she posted two 70s in her last event...a fate that befell Gracie McGovern this week. Not to worry--the Jim West Championship is next month on a course that traditionally yields low scores.
 
JogginFrog

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TCU men finish play at Colonial today. Jack Beauchamp shot a second-round 70--that's pretty much it for TCU highlights.

Some good info from Megan Winans in The Campus Tour podcast episode this week. She clarified that earning one's tournament bag requires a 3-under score in a competitive round for freshmen and 4-under for sophs and up. That's a pretty high bar.

Other insights:
  • TCU's practice facility at Colonial is expected to be complete in early Spring
  • Practices generally start with a team-based challenge, e.g. all 7 players have to hole a certain putt on the same try.
  • Coach Larkin assigns all team nicknames (but is open to input). Winans is "Dimples."
  • Her older sister Libby also played at OU. They played one year there together and TCU (which had been Megan's second choice) then was a natural transfer option.
  • She plans to play professionally post-TCU, although she has put off a couple of surgeries, including foot.
  • She mentioned that she had played Pebble Beach before this fall's tournament; might have contributed to her strong play there. But she liked Chambers Bay even better.
  • TCU seems to lack a true rival in the new Big 12...but the team takes note of how they fare against Oklahoma State and Houston.
 
gohornedfrogs

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I'm amazed at the scores at Colonial. Hardly any team would have been under par at all in the 80s and 90s. Yes, equipment, training, coaching, fitness, etc. are better these days. But roster depth is unreal. Even an 80s/90s era Oklahoma State team would have had a hard time being under for three days, much less 13 under, which is where OU is right now about mid-way through the third round.

For what it's worth, Colonial was the second hardest non-major venue on the PGA Tour last year, and fifth hardest including the majors.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/go...=1&batchservertelemetry=1&noservertelemetry=1
 
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gohornedfrogs said:
I'm amazed at the scores at Colonial. Hardly any team would have been under par at all in the 80s and 90s. Yes, equipment, training, coaching, fitness, etc. are better these days. But roster depth is unreal. Even an 80s/90s era Oklahoma State team would have had a hard time being under for three days, much less 13 under, which is where OU is right now about mid-way through the third round.

For what it's worth, Colonial was the second hardest non-major venue on the PGA Tour last year, and fifth hardest including the majors.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/go...=1&batchservertelemetry=1&noservertelemetry=1
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All those things, but I think the biggest factor is how easy it is to drive the ball these days. Lightweight shafts, drivers with large sweet spots, low spin balls that don't curve much.....that part of the game is soooo much easier. Yes, the courses are longer but they still haven't caught up to the distance gains, not even close. And the game really isn't that hard if you have 130 yds or less into the vast majority of par 4's, which these kids do, even at a 7,250 yard, par 70 course like Colonial. Almost every hole is a solid drive away from a decent birdie opportunity. And then the trend toward removing trees and firmer and faster conditions just makes the distance gains stand out even more.

I have a 43-inch Taylor Made Tour Preferred driver from back in the day at home that I show people sometimes....that was pretty much the standard length driver. You just can't believe how small that thing looks now.....much smaller than today's 3-wood. I guess if you want them to play the way the game was played 25-30 years, you'd just take driver out of their bag and start there.
 

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