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Max Duggan

Discussion in 'Scott & Wes Frog Fan Forum' started by oklahomafrog, Nov 29, 2019.

  1. I know it was either a bad troll job or the dude has zero personal communication skills and is an idiot.

    Is that how a reasonably sane and normal person would make their first post?
     
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  2. like who at TCU?
     
  3. Post of the day #3
     
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  4. Post of the day #4
     
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  5. This is a bit. And a terrible one
     
  6. I don’t have the slightest problem with him stating his opinion. I will say that when you state that you think our popular freshman QB isn’t any good you’re unbelievably naive if you didn’t think anyone was gonna give you any pushback. My issue is with his beyond douchy comment about giving money to the program and then saying that the people on this site make TCU look bad. How anyone can be that tone deaf is beyond me. And if it’s actually a bit, it continues the tradition of this board having the worst trolls on earth.
     
  7. Oh good, I thought it was just me that got banned for a few hours last week.
     
  8. I like the hell out of Max but he is no different from any other young player in that he will have to make incremental improvement every year to be the man. I can assure you he’s going to have his hands full fending off Baldwin this off season. If he’s able to show improvement in the passing game we’ll be better next year. If he can’t?...He is far from a finished product
     
  9. Accuracy? Honest question from a total Max homer. Does he get better with time and coaching? Not all the incompletions are due to drops.
     
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  10. I have a hard time buying thos dude gave the funds claimed.

    Yes, I am a total Max homer, but op seems like hate or sour grapes about who starts.
     
  11. Max is the reason we have the wins we have. Won I spite of Cumbie.
     
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  12. Made me laugh too - sounds like my grandkids that have never known a TCU football program not coached by GMFP but act like they have seen it all
     
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  13. I think Max can be very good but it's not going to be with Cumbie and this offense. Given the structure that he had to work with, he probably did about as well as you could expect a freshman to do. Maybe a more experienced QB makes a little more chicken salad out of the chicken [ Cumbie’s red zone playcalling ] but it's still going to be a [ Cumbie’s red zone playcalling ] show offense.
     
  14. Have not read this whole thread. But I will ask one thing though. Even though Max is a true freshman, he pretty much played the whole season. Did he improve? I’m afraid to say, I don’t think so. Is that a scary thought?
     
  15. Dak Prescott is showing it’s possible to get a lot better. I didn’t think it was possible but Dak took a huge jump. Now idk if Duggan has a private throwing coach in the offseason to work with but it’d help if he did
     
  16. I will admit there are a lot of problems on offense but no one has given me any concrete reason as to why Duggan is going to be so good, final stats on ESPN: 166 completions on 303 attempts, 54.86% completion rate, 58.3 QBR, first 6 games=0 interceptions, last 6 games=10 interceptions, also, these stats do not include the untimely fumbles he had throughout the season

    For comparison, Sanders (RS Freshman at Oklahoma State) was 155 of 247 for a 62.8% completion rate and a much higher QBR, they are 8-3 and we are 5-7, also, Sanders lost his best receiver (Wallace) halfway through the season, Sanders is hurt now but he played well for his first year under center

    Since we went 1-6 in games decided by 7 or fewer points, we could have really used ball security in those tight games.
     
  17. Well, I will say he’s the first qb we’ve had in about 4 years that doesn’t throw off his back foot, so there’s that....

    ‘Course it could be he hasn’t been in this system long enough to learn that to be a true TCU qb, he has to throw off his back foot.
     
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  18. Other freshman QBs:
    Hank Bachmeier Boise State 122 of 193, 63.2% completion, 67.6 QBR
    Bo Nix Auburn, 185 of 321, 57.6% completion, 56.8 QBR
    Sam Howell North Carolina, 211 of 355, 59.4% completion, 69.5 QBR
    Kedon Slovis USC, 260 of 362, 63.2% completion, 67.6 QBR
    Ryan Hilinski South Carolina, 220 of 379, 58.0% completion, 56.5 QBR
    Jayden Daniels Arizona State, 181 of 291, 62.2% completion, 68.8 QBR

    All of these QBs have a higher completion percentage and, after 0 TDs and 2 INTs today, should all have higher QBRs than Duggan. However, Duggan is in the ballpark. Hopefully he will win all of us over next season (including me) but I don't think any of this shows he's a clear cut starter for the next 3 seasons.
     
  19. His performance tonight was more reflective of the coach. He had plays that worked the last few games and Cumbie keeps changing everything up instead of building on the foundation. He has to go, Max deserves better and the rest of us do too.
     
  20. This offense is completely broken but I still like our QB.
     
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