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ATC Frog

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Rinne is just a wall right now. How the Stars didn’t score with 1:29 of 5 on 3 is beyond me.

Just totally deflated the crowd.

Edit: Dallas is 0 for their last 9 PP opportunities.
 

Mean Purple

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Well, I checked out a colleague's 38 Special play list he posted. He wanted an opinion on it. Now I gotta dodge the dude for a while.
How the (Waco) do you scheiss up a 38 Special play list?
 

Ron Swanson

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Window World is popular bc they advertise all over the place, but they're not your best option IMO. Out where you are I'd recommend going to a McCoy's store to find your windows. The company I worked for was Atrium and was merged with PlyGem last year. Those windows can be bought in Lowe's stores under the Reliabilt brand or at McCoy's under the Atrium brand. PlyGem windows can be bought in Home Depot. After the merger they're the single largest window manufacturer in North America, not that it helps you get better windows.

I recommend McCoy's bc their service offering sounds like the best among all of our customers. You'll get better answers to your questions in the store and also the best deal on installation.

SnoSki may not benefit from McCoy's as they're generally out in more rural areas, but there are other options available in the city.

$125 a window for installation is a pretty good price. I put new windows in my dads house several years ago for Father's Day and our service technicians charged me $100 per window and that included disposal of old ones. That's a good old boy discount so if you have someone who isn't a buddy quoting $125 a hole I'd take it.

On quality...

The glass coating and spacer are the two biggest factors in energy savings. The amount of benefit from various LoE coatings can be significant. LoE SC is the most common coating in Texas for Guardian Glass and LoE 270 is the most common for Cardinal Glass. There's essentially no difference between the two so don't get hung up on either of those.

LoE 366 is a premium coating from Cardinal that is very impressive. I've seen demos (science fair type displays) of the amount of energy transfer it blocks and it's remarkable. If you want energy efficiency and can afford it I'd recommend it. If you're worried about the appearance of the windows more than energy cost savings you may not like it. It's a darker blue color from the street and some home owners don't like it. Builders don't like it much due to cost.

As I alluded to, the energy savings is excellent with it. LoE 270 and SC are pretty good about keeping heat out, but they allow some heat transfer out compared with 366. The 366 coating allows virtually nothing in or out.

The window series quality is something difficult to determine at purchase and the outlet you buy from may not even know much warranty detail on them either. I'd definitely try to get that, though. Design has a lot to do with how easy it is to build quality windows and how easy it is to screw up a window in the manufacturing process. At Atrium our 130 series was very popular and tended to have more warranty issues. A comparable window was the 8100 series and it had far fewer warranty issues at virtually the same price point and performance level. I put 8100 series windows in my dad's house, FWIW. The 130 series was popular with customers bc it had a lot more options available, (painted colors, bronze and black laminate, flange or no flange, replacement or new construction, etc. The 8100 was a premium single hung window for replacement only and was offered in white, clay, or almond colors only. That said, due to the variety of options they tried to design into the 130 series it became exceedingly difficult to manufacture without various quality issues. Since the 8100 came in only 3 colors with no variations it was simple to manufacture with high quality.

PlyGem was a massive window company, but they captured their market share by undercutting everyone on price. Their quality leaves a lot to be desired, though the new plant manager (my old boss) in the Dallas plant has already made big strides with their quality processes with the HD windows made there.

Double hung windows are a personal preference. You pay a lot for them and they're great to have, but my personal preference is that they aren't worth the money.

I've got more, but I think that's enough on mobile for now and I'm not real sure what all I've covered and omitted at this point. If you want more info or have more questions feel free to call me. I think I gave you my number once.
I’d like to add that the more expensive Low E coating you are referring to only helps if the sun is hitting the windows directly. My windows have Low E coating on the glass on the north side of my house and they’ve literally never seen the sun, so it has no effect.

The fact that it’s an IGU (insulated glass unit, i.e. 2 pieces of glass separated by a spacer for those that don’t know) helps but the low E coatings mainly help deal with lowering the Solar Heat Gain Coefficient, which is the amount of heat let through the window by the suns rays.
 

Purp

Active Member
I’d like to add that the more expensive Low E coating you are referring to only helps if the sun is hitting the windows directly. My windows have Low E coating on the glass on the north side of my house and they’ve literally never seen the sun, so it has no effect.

The fact that it’s an IGU (insulated glass unit, i.e. 2 pieces of glass separated by a spacer for those that don’t know) helps but the low E coatings mainly help deal with lowering the Solar Heat Gain Coefficient, which is the amount of heat let through the window by the suns rays.
This is largely true. LoE can still reduce heat transfer in high heat summers, but you're right that it's most impactful for windows facing the sun. LoE can also help reduce heat transfer out during the winter months and that has nothing to do with sun. Argon is also beneficial in IGUs, but relative to LoE it's not a significant contributor. Krypton, however, is a gas that can help a lot also. It's just crazy expensive.
 
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ATC Frog

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Rough finish for the Stars. After they tied it I didn't see them losing. That winner for Nashville was exquisite.

2 reasons for the outcome in that game, and they both play between the pipes.

Rinne stood on his head multiple times that game and Bishop played well below average.

Edit: the GWG was a “throw it towards the net and pray.” Got lucky and deflected off of Miro.
 

Purp

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Bish was great tonight. He just made 2 mistakes that were the difference in the game. Rinne made mistakes, but didn't get penalized as badly as Ben did. That's the way hockey go. Bish has been the best in hockey this year. Just an atypical night for him. Very bizarre for him to let in 2 soft goals. And I don't think that last one went in off Miro. Just looked like a weak blocker effort by Bish.
 

ATC Frog

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Bish was great tonight. He just made 2 mistakes that were the difference in the game. Rinne made mistakes, but didn't get penalized as badly as Ben did. That's the way hockey go. Bish has been the best in hockey this year. Just an atypical night for him. Very bizarre for him to let in 2 soft goals. And I don't think that last one went in off Miro. Just looked like a weak blocker effort by Bish.

I thought on the replay it glanced off of Miro and then off of Bishop’s blocker/arm. Maybe not.
 

Purp

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I thought on the replay it glanced off of Miro and then off of Bishop’s blocker/arm. Maybe not.
I know Razor said that and Bishop said it postgame, but I saw that replay several times from multiple angles and didn't see the deflection. Won't deny some bourbon could affect my vision, though.
 

tcudoc

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I'm not a design guy and wouldn't trust my own advice on what colors would look good for what reasons. I just haven't ever seen a situation where I felt like black windows looked better than some other options. There are laminate films that have a wood grain to them that may compliment your shutters nicely. Just a thought.
It was only a few years ago that someone (my wife and daughter) pointed out to me that colors on the opposite side of the color wheel were complimentary and were frequently paired as shirt and tie combos. I had gone through life just using my gut feeling “these two colors probably look good together.”
When that was pointed out, it became obvious that school colors were almost always opposite of each other on the color wheel, and therefore “looked good together.” I felt dumb for not ever learning this simple fashion tip during elementary school art classes. I guess I was too busy eating paste.
 

Ron Swanson

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It was only a few years ago that someone (my wife and daughter) pointed out to me that colors on the opposite side of the color wheel were complimentary and were frequently paired as shirt and tie combos. I had gone through life just using my gut feeling “these two colors probably look good together.”
When that was pointed out, it became obvious that school colors were almost always opposite of each other on the color wheel, and therefore “looked good together.” I felt dumb for not ever learning this simple fashion tip during elementary school art classes. I guess I was too busy eating paste.
I just learned it right now
 

Eight

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Samesies. I checked out a friend’s Men Without Hats greatest hits playlist. It didn’t have Safety Dance on it. What the heck?

i will be incredibly impressed doc if you can name another men without hats song aside from safety dance.

bonus points if you can name another midnight dixie runners' song aside from come on eileen.
 

GeoFrog

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i will be incredibly impressed doc if you can name another men without hats song aside from safety dance.

bonus points if you can name another midnight dixie runners' song aside from come on eileen.

There is only one more and it came out about 8 years after Safety Dance.
 

QuilterFrawg

CDR USN (Ret)
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"When that was pointed out, it became obvious that school colors were almost always opposite of each other on the color wheel, and therefore 'looked good together.'”
Another reason Baylor is messed up.
 

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