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Gameday Thread: Mountaineers vs Horned Frogs

Bruce Berry

Bruce Berry

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cdsfrog said:
He landed on.his shoulder and may be done for the season. I dont give a darn what the rule book says. Reverse it and everyone.is calling kindred dirty. I get its legal. Heads up play. Sounds like justification for air force causing dozens of knee injuries to defense every year.
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Everyone is done for the season. Thank you Dr.
Being you must suck.
 
cdsfrog

cdsfrog

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Planks said:
Anyone see Montrel Wilson? Big V was on the sidelines but Wilson was MIA
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wilson hurts but no replacement for kindred. Our corners were all over the place as were the linebackers constantly leaving open players. He directs the secondary. scheissed without him.
 
cdsfrog

cdsfrog

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Bruce Berry said:
 
Everyone is done for the season. Thank you Dr.
Being you must suck.
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Just saying we have been very unlucky injury wise. Hope they are all ok. I really doubt all of them are out. Wilson and kindred looked bad
 
Hefley001

Hefley001

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Pharm Frog said:
 
You are wrong.  It's a defenseless player regardless of offense, defense, or special teams.  Rule 9-1-3. Clearly says "opponent" and does not specify side of the ball.  Even been called on offense before but most often because of blocks.
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First of all, do you even know what you are referencing? 9-1-3 is Targeting. You better go back and watch the play again and read 9-1-3 and let me know when you're done.
 
Punter1

Punter1

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Pharm Frog said:
 
You are wrong.  It's a defenseless player regardless of offense, defense, or special teams.  Rule 9-1-3. Clearly says "opponent" and does not specify side of the ball.  Even been called on offense before but most often because of blocks.
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I agree..but he hit him the gut. He broke up the pass. Clean football play??

What would/could he have done different??
 
cdsfrog

cdsfrog

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Maybe we have another leader in the making. Just really hard to replace that. Not sure who else could do it right away. Would make osu very hard
 
Pharm Frog

Pharm Frog

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Punter1 said:
I agree..but he hit him the gut. He broke up the pass. Clean football play??

What would/could he have done different??
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Not dropped his head and led with the crown of the helmet.  If the game is gonna get called one way for offense, it has to be called the same way for defense (even though you could easily argue that Kindred kind of became the offense).  FWIW-I doubt it would be called against the defender if the play was reversed simply because he didn't hit helmet-to-helmet.  But by rule it was illegal....because you can't spear anywhere.
 
cdsfrog

cdsfrog

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Im happy about 8 and 0. Sorry just annoyed about the clean great play [ Finebaum ] and no update on kindred
Offense was great. Special teams was great. Defense was awesome in 2nd half
 
TxFrog1999

TxFrog1999

The Man Behind The Curtain
Time to celebrate...
 
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Pharm Frog

Pharm Frog

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Hefley001 said:
First of all, do you even know what you are referencing? 9-1-3 is Targeting. You better go back and watch the play again and read 9-1-3 and let me know when you're done.
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You may be right in one respect:  it didn't matter whether or not the defender was "defenseless" (although he was by any definition).  Where you are completely wrong is that a defensive back cannot be considered "defenseless".  He is an "opponent" which is clearly the only criteria for "who" can be considered defenseless.
 
TARGETING AND CROWN-OF-HELMET GUIDELINES FOR COACHES, PLAYERS AND OFFICIALS
 
INTRODUCTION
With the 2013 rule change that makes ejection from the game a part of the penalty for targeting fouls coaches, players and officials need to have a clear understanding of Rules 9-1-3 and 9-1-4.   It is very important to understand that these fouls have not changed from previous years, and officials should officiate these plays as in the past.  The characterization of defenseless players has been expanded (see below), but otherwise these rules for the fouls remain as they have been.  It is the penalty that has changed. 
These guidelines are intended to assist everyone involved in the game to understand these rules, which are so important in protecting the safety of the student-athlete.
 
RULES
Targeting and Initiating Contact With the Crown of the Helmet  (Rule 9-1-3)
No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.
Targeting and Initiating Contact to Head or Neck Area of a Defenseless Player  (Rule 9-1-4)
No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, fist, elbow or shoulder. When in question, it is a foul.  (Rule 2-27-14)
 

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