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2025 Recruiting Thread

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SW toad

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westoverhillbilly said:
I heard that. But, I think it will take a balance between portal guys and high school signees. The programs that best get it right on what percentage of each will be the winners in the future. Exception being that Ala/Ga/Ohio St/MI & perhaps UTex will try to use the other DI programs as their farm clubs.
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Example: Heard someone on here saying Ashton Jeanty RB @ Boise had 0 chance of committing to TCU.
I'm pretty sure when you're talking about likelihoods and probabilities Jeanty would have committed to Frogs if offered on 12/03/21.

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Current 2025 Recruit Team Recruit Rankings >> and offers as of today...

# 1 Ohio State 175 offers
# 2 Alabama 239 offers
# 3 LSU 217 offers
# 4 Auburn 314 Offers
# 5 Georgia 289 Offers The top half ^^^

# 20 TCU 169 Offers
# 21 RUTGERS 160 Offers
# 22 Ole Miss 440 freakin offers
# 23 Kentucky 353 offers
# 24 SMU 221 offers
# 25 Nebraska 258 offers

The inflection point is that TCU does not comprende the law of averages. They need to be placing offers on big boys on OL/DL and others going out of state. Some of these guys will falter to committing to Clemson/Notre Dame and the rest and come back to the Horned Toads.
 
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SW toad said:
The inflection point is that TCU does not comprende the law of averages. They need to be placing offers on big boys on OL/DL and others going out of state. Some of these guys will falter to committing to Clemson/Notre Dame and the rest and come back to the Horned Toads.
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The Brockermeyer twins are a case in point. Once many of these kids figure out that Tuscaloosa and Baton Rouge and Norman are sheetholes with no community for someone of their heritage or background, they look to get the hell out of Dodge, so to speak. Fort Worth and TCU are great landing pads for them.
 
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The biggest downside of this class right now is the Frogs are losing 3 defensive tackles and they only have one committed in Floyd Guidry.
Big issue here for the Frogs is there just aren't many big interior defensive linemen in this class and they offered Floyd, Dilan Battle, Zion Williams, Chace Sims, Landon Rink, and DJ Sanders with five of those going to bigger brand schools.

Here is the problem. Think of NIL as an NFL salary cap. Schools not only have to use precious NIL dollars to recruit new talent, but they also have to use it to retain talent they already have. For instance, Markis Deal.
TCU does not have an NIL that can do both right now. A large percentage of TCU’s funds are pointed at retaining current players, and they need more $$ to realistically compete for top talent.
Just think of how expensive good D-tackles are in the NFL. It’s the same thing in Power CFB on a smaller scale. We are used to having some good NFL candidates on both our lines and right now there isn’t a single one.
 
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82 Frog Fever said:
The biggest downside of this class right now is the Frogs are losing 3 defensive tackles and they only have one committed in Floyd Guidry.
Big issue here for the Frogs is there just aren't many big interior defensive linemen in this class and they offered Floyd, Dilan Battle, Zion Williams, Chace Sims, Landon Rink, and DJ Sanders with five of those going to bigger brand schools.

Here is the problem. Think of NIL as an NFL salary cap. Schools not only have to use precious NIL dollars to recruit new talent, but they also have to use it to retain talent they already have. For instance, Markis Deal.
TCU does not have an NIL that can do both right now. A large percentage of TCU’s funds are pointed at retaining current players, and they need more $$ to realistically compete for top talent.
Just think of how expensive good D-tackles are in the NFL. It’s the same thing in Power CFB on a smaller scale. We are used to having some good NFL candidates on both our lines and right now there isn’t a single one.
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Where do Brody Whatley and Blake Robinett project to play?
 
82 Frog Fever

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An-Cap Frog said:
Where do Brody Whatley and Blake Robinett project to play?
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Whatley was a strong side DE, but I assume they’ll try to bring him along as a DT, as that’s what we need and Woodfork is a shoe in for DE/LB reps freshman year.
Robinett was an IDL. I’m not sure how he’ll be used in this hybrid defense.
I’m not bashing these recruits, in a few years both these two guys may end up being great. However, neither are ranked in the top 150 DLs, which puts them in the bottom 25% of the rankings (sort of Power/Group tweeners ) and both need about 45 lbs. of good weight.
If TCU had the appropriate NIL, they would be successfully recruiting more lineman that don’t have a huge development curve. Similar to Guidry, inside the top 100 DLs, and more prepared for reps freshman year.
 
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An-Cap Frog said:
Where do Brody Whatley and Blake Robinett project to play?
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Probably the same position Avion Carter plays. The staff probably believes Carter was a potential DT although he graduated from HS @ 260lbs. He has gained15-20 lbs but it could be carb/dough pounds. He was a 4 star, but I don't have any idea if he's being developed properly.

We have some talented Freshman/RS Freshman that could develop if Kaz and others get their core strength in the correct place. Tristan Johnson 6'3" 275, Keviyan Huddleston 6'2" 265, Zach Chapman 6'5" 250, Sterlin Brooks 6'3" 335, and Avion Carter 6'4" 280.

If I was defensive line coach, I'd put all of these guys in MMA training in the spring of '25 and additional classes to enhance their hand fighting skills. I think we probably have a couple DTs in this group.
 
82 Frog Fever

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SW toad said:
Probably the same position Avion Carter plays. The staff probably believes Carter was a potential DT although he graduated from HS @ 260lbs. He has gained15-20 lbs but it could be carb/dough pounds. He was a 4 star, but I don't have any idea if he's being developed properly.

We have some talented Freshman/RS Freshman that could develop if Kaz and others get their core strength in the correct place. Tristan Johnson 6'3" 275, Keviyan Huddleston 6'2" 265, Zach Chapman 6'5" 250, Sterlin Brooks 6'3" 335, and Avion Carter 6'4" 280.

If I was defensive line coach, I'd put all of these guys in MMA training in the spring of '25 and additional classes to enhance their hand fighting skills. I think we probably have a couple DTs in this group.
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We really do have some great Young talent. Unfortunately, we’re running on near empty when it comes to non-portal upper class men in our lines and LB. Due to past recruiting failures and portal exits.
I believe Nicholls is being replaced tonite, and he was the only OL upperclasman recruited from H.S.
 
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SW toad said:
Probably the same position Avion Carter plays. The staff probably believes Carter was a potential DT although he graduated from HS @ 260lbs. He has gained15-20 lbs but it could be carb/dough pounds. He was a 4 star, but I don't have any idea if he's being developed properly.

We have some talented Freshman/RS Freshman that could develop if Kaz and others get their core strength in the correct place. Tristan Johnson 6'3" 275, Keviyan Huddleston 6'2" 265, Zach Chapman 6'5" 250, Sterlin Brooks 6'3" 335, and Avion Carter 6'4" 280.

If I was defensive line coach, I'd put all of these guys in MMA training in the spring of '25 and additional classes to enhance their hand fighting skills. I think we probably have a couple DTs in this group.
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Fantastic to see Tristan Johnson make an interception last night. Zach Chapman making a few plays too.
 
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CryptoMiner said:
Perry Cole DT 6-3/290 TVCC offered. Former teammate of TCU commit Jon Denman (Palestine). Went from 255 as a senior to 290 as a freshman at TVCC. Offers include UH, MissSt, Tech and others. Was an All-State punter at Palestine.

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It's always intersting to see the first year size gain.

Had guys on our's in high school that went on to play for big blue bloods. They would come home at holiday and it was insane. A friend came back and I asked him how they got the gain on him. He said they assigned someone to him and the dude made him eat. Then workouts. They were not as advanced as they have been the past 15 years. It was good meat head philosphy back then.
 

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