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The Post LHCGP Coach Discussion

CountryFrog

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Just curious, but from a legal standpoint, does he forfeit any buyout monies by quitting, per se?
If he legitimately just decided on his own to quit then there would be no buyout.

These types of situations, though, always result in a buyout. Regardless of how it gets framed. Whether he was technically fired or not then he'll get everything coming to him as if he was fired. The framing of it is for PR purposes only.
 

Relic

Active Member
Interesting that several on here are advocating for Tom Herman. I perused Surly last night and several there were advocating for Gary to replace their DC. One man's trash, another man's treasure...
 

Moose Stuff

Active Member
You make a call to all kinds of unlikely realistic candidates…. Campbell, Peterson, Fickell, whoever…. maybe one of them surprises you. Though to be honest if one of them actually IS interested you’re gonna know about it before you ever call. In the end we’re probably looking at a realistic group that looks something like Napier, Dykes, Traylor. I’d take Napier assuming he’s interested. I also think Grimes at Baylor would be worth talking to at the very least. Hard NO on guys like Fuente, Malzahn, either Stoops, Herman….
 
I get it Marky but even the Great GP has bosses and that was not his decision to make. You dont get to play in the mansion when you are told your services are no longer needed unless the Mansion IS YOURS! TCU does not belong to him and obviously he doesnt think thats the case. Heres the problem. For years too many folks have told and treated GP as if he was untouchable and not subject to the normal expectations that 130 D1 Coaches face yearly because of all he has done to increase and build the brand thus hes been able to hire all his buddies and give OJT to a bunch of young, inexperienced yes men coaches with zero accountability whatsoever. When you give one guy that much power of course hes going to be a pompous arse when you tell him things are no longer up to him why his actions today are a surprise to some should be the least surprising thing ever
Neither am I. His style hasn't won [ #2020 ] at SMU - so they have finished 3rd place in the AAC, big whoop.

Yeah you might consistently win 7-8 games each year but this is exactly what people were angry about with GP, tired of going 7-5 and wanting more. Hire a coach with a higher upside and ceiling instead of a high floor like you would get with Dykes.
Neither am I. His style hasn't won [ #2020 ] at SMU - so they have finished 3rd place in the AAC, big whoop.

Yeah you might consistently win 7-8 games each year but this is exactly what people were angry about with GP, tired of going 7-5 and wanting more. Hire a coach with a higher upside and ceiling instead of a high floor like you would get with Dykes.
 

Bob Sugar

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Not sure if mentioned, but I'd like to give Holmon Wiggins a look and an interview: https://rolltide.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/holmon-wiggins/1184

Holmon Wiggins is in his third season at Alabama on head coach Nick Saban's staff as the Crimson Tide's wide receivers coach.

Wiggins came to Tuscaloosa after three years (2015-18) coaching wide receivers at Virginia Tech under head coach Justin Fuente. He also worked for Fuente at Memphis for four seasons (2012-15).

His first two seasons in Tuscaloosa have produced a Heisman Trophy and Biletnikoff Award winner, two All-Americans, two first-round NFL Draft picks and likely two more in April of 2021. Senior DeVonta Smith turned in arguably the best season by a wide receiver in college football history on his way to winning not only the Heisman and Biletnikoff but the Maxwell Award, the Walter Camp Player of the Year and the Paul Hornung Award. He caught 117 passes for 1,856 yards and 23 touchdowns, setting SEC marks for yards and receiving touchdowns, while finishing his career with SEC records for receptions (235), yards (3,965) and touchdowns (46). Jaylen Waddle got off to and even hotter start than Smith before an ankle injury caused him to miss eight games leading up to the national title contest, finishing with 28 receptions for 591 yards and four touchdowns in just five games at wide receiver. Sophomore John Metchie III also produced a breakout season, hauling in 55 catches for 916 yards and six scores.

His first season in Tuscaloosa did not disappoint as he helped the vaunted Crimson Tide receiving corps improve on already stellar careers. Smith turned in an impressive season with 68 receptions for a team-best 1,256 yards and 14 touchdowns. Jerry Jeudy led the team in receptions with 77 while recording 1,163 receiving yards and 10 more touchdowns to finish his career with 26 (third-most in school history). Henry Ruggs III added 40 catches for 746 yards and seven touchdowns while Waddle added six more scores, 33 receptions and 560 receiving yards.

Before coming to Tuscaloosa, Wiggins oversaw the development of Virginia Tech's wide receivers for three years, highlighted by Cam Phillips, who established himself as Tech's career leader in receptions and receiving yards. Phillips caught 76 passes for 983 yards as a junior and then followed that with 71 catches for 964 yards as a senior.

A native of Los Angeles, Calif., Wiggins had four wide receivers catch at least 26 passes in 2018. Damon Hazelton led the group with 51 catches for 802 yards and eight touchdowns while Eric Kumah caught 42 balls for 559 yards and seven scores. Tre Turner averaged 20.6 yards per catch while Hezekiah Grimsley hauled in 31 passes for 382 yards.

The 2017 corps at Tech was led by senior Cam Phillips who caught 71 passes for 964 yards and a career-best seven touchdowns. Phillips garnered first team All-ACC honors in 2017 and earned a spot on the Buffalo Bills roster in 2018. Phillips became Virginia Tech's career leader in receptions and receiving yards by the end of his time in Blacksburg.

Wiggins was part of a staff that helped guide Tech's offense to 10 single-season records during their first year in 2016, including points (490), passing first downs (172), touchdown passes (31), total offense (6,223), completion percentage (62.1 percent), passing yards (3,660) and pass completions (279).

He helped continue the ascent of Isaiah Ford, who broke his own Tech single-season record with 79 receptions in 2016, registering 1,094 yards and seven touchdowns in the process. Phillips, who earned Belk Bowl MVP honors in 2016, concluded his junior campaign by setting personal bests in receptions (76) and receiving yards (983).

Wiggins was an integral component of Fuente's staff that helped lead Memphis to 19 victories and back-to-back bowl appearances in 2014-15. Memphis receivers registered 148 receptions, 1,687 yards and four touchdowns in 2013 and upped that total to 205 receptions for 2,422 yards and 14 scores in 2014 before hauling in 255 passes for 3,277 yards and 19 touchdowns in 2015.

He drastically improved the production of the wide receivers corps at Memphis when he arrived in 2012, with the receivers accounting for 125 receptions and 1,417 yards. The Tigers registered 53 receiving touchdowns in 2014-15, compared to only 24 in the two seasons before Wiggins' arrival.

Wiggins joined the Memphis program after a one-year stint tutoring the running backs at Tulsa in 2011. The TU running backs combined for 2,006 rushing yards, while H-Back Willie Carter led Tulsa with 868 receiving yards that season, meriting a spot on the All-Conference USA second team.

Prior to Tulsa, Wiggins enjoyed a five-year stint coaching running backs at Illinois State from 2006-10, helping guide the Redbirds to the FCS quarterfinals in his initial season on the staff. Under his tutelage in 2006, running back Pierre Rembert earned All-America accolades and rushed for a school-record 1,743 yards. From 2006-08, Illinois State averaged 187.7 rushing yards per game and racked up 76 rushing scores.

Wiggins began his coaching career at his alma mater, the University of New Mexico, after an outstanding playing career with the Lobos. He was a three-year starter at running back, finishing his career with 1,833 rushing years while setting the Lobos' single-season record for punt returns (46) and punt return yards (392). He is a 2003 graduate of the University of New Mexico.

Wiggins and his wife Dominique have four daughters, Justyce, Karyn, Brooklyn and Journye and two sons, Kingston and Legend.
 

Wexahu

Full Member
For all those people saying "what has Coach X ever won?" or "he's a failed coach" so why would we want him?..... Art Briles was 34-28 in his 5 seasons at UH, never went better than 8-4 in C-USA, and never won a bowl game before Baylor hired him. And the list of successful HS coaches like Briles that failed at the college level is a mile long.
 
I get it Marky but even the Great GP has bosses and that was not his decision to make. You dont get to play in the mansion when you are told your services are no longer needed unless the Mansion IS YOURS! TCU does not belong to him and obviously he doesnt think thats the case. Heres the problem. For years too many folks have told and treated GP as if he was untouchable and not subject to the normal expectations that 130 D1 Coaches face yearly because of all he has done to increase and build the brand thus hes been able to hire all his buddies and give OJT to a bunch of young, inexperienced yes men coaches with zero accountability whatsoever. When you give one guy that much power of course hes going to be a pompous arse when you tell him things are no longer up to him why his actions today are a surprise to some should be the least surprising thing ever
Very good point he is liken to Amon Carter in that he brought Fort Worth together and the city rose to a new level of pride and togetherness. Everyone was brought together with a common interest. Despite the way it ended he will always be welcome everywhere essentially having a key to the city. He may be unhappy with the way it went down with the admin. But as far of the people or community of FW he will always be a legend
 
Very good point he is liken to Amon Carter in that he brought Fort Worth together and the city rose to a new level of pride and togetherness. Everyone was brought together with a common interest. Despite the way it ended he will always be welcome everywhere essentially having a key to the city. He may be unhappy with the way it went down with the admin. But as far of the people or community of FW he will always be a legend
And most of us all have bosses and despite it being his team he’s not the head boss of “our” team
 
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