i'm not sure if that hockey team victory or jesse owens doing in hitler were america's greatest olympic moment? personally, i'd vote the latter.Non-Swimsuit issue category
Usa Hockey, 1980 Winter Olympics Sports Illustrated Cover by Sports Illustrated
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i'm not sure if that hockey team victory or jesse owens doing in hitler were america's greatest olympic moment? personally, i'd vote the latter.
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You are probably correct but the Hockey meant for me because I was alive and following when it happened.i'm not sure if that hockey team victory or jesse owens doing in hitler were america's greatest olympic moment? personally, i'd vote the latter.
old i am but not enough to have witnessed owens embarrass hitler in his fatherland. more than a medal winner, jesse's performance said something important to the world about the nazi nonsense regarding aryan race superiority. while the hockey match was mostly about believing in miracles and wasn't even for the gold medal.
I think you're understating the angst of the Cold War by a country mile.
you're comparing hitler with brezhnev?
Not at all. But the American print media in 1936 wasn't accurately portraying the realities in Germany so precious few Americans even had an idea of the significance of the moment when Owens won. And the fact Roosevelt didn't even acknowledge his accomplishments speaks to the significance our own country placed on it. I'm not suggesting it was right, but it unfortunately was real.
I agree with you 50% because I believe Owens accomplishment was equally as great. It may not have been a rallying point for most of the country, it was the times, but for a man of color to be the reason to disprove that any race was superior to another and to do it so humbly had to be a huge blow to the Aryan superiority theory Hitler espoused. Owens blew it up in one Olympics. Maybe grudgingly, but I’m pretty sure the world noticed. We are still talking about it today.
that's a well reasoned argument. my point was that owens' was the greater achievement given the moment, whether recognized or not. i mean, jesus christ's crucifixion - a rather important moment in time - probably wasn't well recognized by the roman media either.
A lesser known aspect of that story was about the guy standing behind Owens on the platform: Luz Long. Long was supposed to be The Guy, yet was beaten, and instead of bitterness in this he became fast friends with Owens. They exchanged letters for the next few years until the War closed things down.that's a well reasoned argument. my point was that owens' was the greater achievement given the moment, whether recognized or not. i mean, jesus christ's crucifixion - a rather important moment in time - probably wasn't well recognized by the roman media either.
1936 Hitler was a relative upstart. The atrocities were years away. He wasn’t yet a pariah. In fact, there were fascist/nazi parties in many counties across Europe including England, France,Spain…
It may have opened in 1933, but it wasn't a death camp... yet. Kristallnacht wasn't until '38, the camps were primarily up until that point were for Hitlers political adversaries, gays, Jehovah's witnesses, and gypsies.
Dachau opened in 1933. Long Knives was 1934. Nuremberg laws 1935.
The worst was yet to come for sure, but the atrocities were ongoing during those Olympics.
I also wouldn't say years away. 1936 and '38 are only two years apart. Which is a lesson we shouldn't forget. The German population turned relatively quickly from a free an oblivious population into a authoritarian nightmare.
Post I responded to said the atrocities hadn't started yet. I consider throwing political adversaries, gays, JW's, and gypsies in Concentration Camps (plus, again, the Nuremberg Laws) pretty darn atrocious, don't you?
Yes, but it was a work camp at that point. They weren't gassing them by the 1,000s.
Remember reading Dan Jenkins article on Goat Hills golf. Read when I was 18 in 1965 before coming to TCU. Laughed my butt off. I still have the reprinted story. A classic.
