Bonner4Prez
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Seeing a lot of misleading info all over the internet. Does anyone know how it actually works?
So can we get in the Sugar or no?
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TxFrog1999
The Man Behind The Curtain
At-large appears to be it, but we'll need a lot of help, especially from the committee.
rM3panno
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This may be worse than health insurance level confusion!
From the CFP website:
Both participants in the Orange, Rose and Sugar Bowls are contracted outside the playoff arrangement (Big Ten and Pac-12 to Rose Bowl; SEC and Big 12 to Sugar Bowl; ACC to Orange Bowl against the highest ranked available team from the SEC, Big Ten and Notre Dame). If a conference champion qualifies for the playoff, then the bowl will choose a replacement from that conference. When those bowls host the semifinals and their contracted conference champions do not qualify, then the displaced champion(s) will play in one of the other New Years bowls.
It clearly says the bowl gets to select the replacement.
From the CFP website:
Both participants in the Orange, Rose and Sugar Bowls are contracted outside the playoff arrangement (Big Ten and Pac-12 to Rose Bowl; SEC and Big 12 to Sugar Bowl; ACC to Orange Bowl against the highest ranked available team from the SEC, Big Ten and Notre Dame). If a conference champion qualifies for the playoff, then the bowl will choose a replacement from that conference. When those bowls host the semifinals and their contracted conference champions do not qualify, then the displaced champion(s) will play in one of the other New Years bowls.
It clearly says the bowl gets to select the replacement.
back_in_black
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According to John Denton we are an option and the most likely option. Would assume he knows more than we do.McFroggin said:
rifram09
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What are you talking about?McFroggin said:
If OU goes to the playoffs, the sugar will take another team from the B12 this year per "the Big 12 Sugar Bowl agreement." OU in the playoffs means they beat OSU today. That means there is either a three way tie for second (OSU-TCU-Baylor) if Baylor beats Texas, or two way tie for second (OSU-TCU) if Baylor loses to Texas.
I think the contract would allow the sugar to choose TCU over OSU in a two way tie scenario, but I'm not sure they would. If Baylor beats Texas to make it a three way tie, then I think there's a decent chance we get selected.
What do I have wrong here?
Pharm Frog
Full Member
The only thing I see wrong is that the B12 conference published its "Sugar" selection protocol and it ain't us. BUT the B12 office is run by fools so who knows?Rifram09 said:
BABYFACE
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That make you feel better diaper bag boy?McFroggin said:
Looking at the agreement that Panno posted it says the Big 12 champ plays in the Sugar and if champ goes to playoff, the bowl selects another team from that conference. So that could be OSU, TCU or Baylor if OU goes to playoff.
I do know TCU has a chance for Sugar and that is all that matters to me.
Bonner4Prez
KMA
back_in_black said:
Yes, he mentioned this on the radio last night after the game.
FrogSwagSurfin
Active Member
I read all of the possible bowl representatives where at the game last night. IMO our crowd had to have made a great impression last night
JimSwinkLives!
Active Member
As much as I'd love to see us in the Sugar, I think we land in the Alamo against either Oregon or UCLA.
flyfishingfrog
Active Member
Depends on if the Sugar is required to use the Big 12 tie breaker rules
If those apply to second place and the Sugar had to use them, then it looks like Baylor will get nod and then embarrass the conference by losing again
If the Sugar can select the team themselves, I would think it would be us or OSU due to baylor QB situation and past record ib Big Bowls
If those apply to second place and the Sugar had to use them, then it looks like Baylor will get nod and then embarrass the conference by losing again
If the Sugar can select the team themselves, I would think it would be us or OSU due to baylor QB situation and past record ib Big Bowls
rM3panno
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I still don't see the bowl reps, especially big time (eg, the old BCS bowl) subjecting themselves to who the conference says they have to take beyond the champion. Given the post in the other thread and John Dentons comments my guess is the Sugar Bowl could to give 2 Baylor's about the Big XII tiebreaker rules for second place.
flyfishingfrog
Active Member
Just because the B12 has them doesn't mean the Sugar has to follow them - if it's in our Sugar contract then yes. If not, it would be at their discretion. I would imagine the B12 made them to hope and avoid the cluster that was last year - but it looks like it will backfire again if Sux2BU goes to the Sugar and gets beat AGAIN.McFroggin said:
