SB Nation: TCU Football Bowl Projections

[stbrab]

If you mean, defend him from accusations not made public or sourced, I'll be your huckleberry.

If Jeremy is accusing Donati of turning down a bid, why is he so cowardly as to do it from behind a paid message board? Afraid of getting sued?

Jeremy has a public X account; he should post a story there.

This is exhibit A of [ muschi ] journalism.

If you’re talking about Jeremy Clark, I don’t believe he made such an accusation. I’ve got an account on the 247 site ( primarily to follow recruiting), and I haven’t seen that. He did post that he was hearing smoke about the New Mexico bowl and commented that the the administration was upset with the Liberty Bowl over the Frogs treatment the last time we went, but nothing about us turning it down.

 

[BrewingFrog]

We went 8- 4. That’s not bad.

2023. To this Season. We still had some love in '23, and lots of eyes in the Colorado game. All of that was burned away week after week as we managed to lose in new and ghastly ways. By the time this season rolled around, all of that love was gone, and we did nothing to get it back. By the time we actually started doing something other than taking a dump and falling over backwards, ESPN had relegated us to ESPN+ and no one could watch.

 

[froginmn]

If you’re talking about Jeremy Clark, I don’t believe he made such an accusation. I’ve got an account on the 247 site ( primarily to follow recruiting), and I haven’t seen that. He did post that he was hearing smoke about the New Mexico bowl and commented that the the administration was upset with the Liberty Bowl over the Frogs treatment the last time we went, but nothing about us turning it down.

LOL, we had people here saying he was the source.

Good info for @Mean Purple ...

Edit: and hey @FloridaFrog76129 , looks like your bluff has been called. Are you just the pigeon [ Finebaum ]ting on the chess board here, or can you source where Jeremy said this?

 

[Mean Purple]

LOL, we had people here saying he was the source.

Good info for @Mean Purple ...

Edit: and hey @FloridaFrog76129 , looks like your bluff has been called. Are you just the pigeon [ Finebaum ]ting on the chess board here, or can you source where Jeremy said this?

Well, looks like I finally got an answer. (better answer this time)
I asked who they got the info from. some folks hinted and one said Jeremy.

 

[Mean Purple]

For what it's worth, TCU's TV ratings were significantly worse this year, as compared to 2023. In actuality, they were cut in half, and that may have played a part in getting the Frogs relegated to such a 3rd World bowl. Last year, TCU's average TV audience was slightly more than 1.4 million, which was 28th in the country and # 3 among current Big-12 members, behind only Colorado and Utah! This year, they were 48th (still ahead of Tech )!

2024 Average TV Ratings

Are they including the ESPN+ games in that?

 

[SW toad]

2022...We were in the College Football Playoff and this team was playing in New Mexico...

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Since the NM bowls inception, The NM Bowl has always been affiliated with Mountain West, AAC or Sun Belt. In fact, most years from 2006 on, the NM bowl has had two teams participate from the above mentioned 3 conferences.

I have met Jeff Siembieda, NM Bowl director and while I don't know him personally, he was sweating 9 mms around 2015. It was pretty much a given the bowl was a goner. Siembieda in 2016 was questioned about the future of the bowl and replied that ESPN had signed a new contract. I lived in the community from '99 to '22. The NM bowl is one of the many welfare bowls ESPN keeps afloat because they manage to extract revenue rather than profit. The other Bowls subsidize the welfare bowls and the espn theater just keeps going.

Although I'm a native Texan, I lived in the ABQ Metro for 20 + years. If you are going to the game, do not stay in any of the Hotels around the airport, I-25 corridor or Hotels along i-40. Instead stay at the Indian Pueblo cultural center hotels at 12th and I-40 approximately 6-7 miles from the game. Ind. Pueblo cultural center hotels have Native police who hate property crime violators.

I'm the grandson of a well-respected former owner of a tortilla/tamale factory restaurant in the lower valley of El Paso-La Tapatia. My Grandpa won at least a half dozen national legit Salsa/Pico de gallo contests in the 80s. Me and my brothers/cousins growing up were used as Guinea pigs by my grandpa for his borderline mad scientist concoctions. So, I am no expert, but I know mexican food.

The best ambience: El Pinto on n. 4th Sadie's on 4th. The best Huevos Rancheros with very little seating area... that would be El Modelo in Downtown. Barelas Coffee in downtown and Cocina Azul-Old Town downtown. The only complaint I have about ABQ Mexican food is they often use incorrect cheese in their enchiladas. rellenos and other cheddar variations. Mexican food should be prepped with white cheese like Oaxaca, Menonita or Asadero.

The most under the radar "non-tourist" tourist thing you could do is take drive up the turquoise trail hwy 14 on the east side of the abq mountains. It is unusually green vs. west side of the manzano mts. and the movie "Wild Hogs" has several filming sites that a former girlfriend dragged me into in 06 or 07 . Have a beer in Madrid NM, have another world flashback =in this little hybrid mountain/desert village. I was only dragged into looking into these film locations because I thought there was this astro chance to see Marisa Tomei.

 

[tcudoc]

I was teeing up "Chipotle" for him...

Missed it. I was doing the Humble Pie angle.

 

[Mean Purple]

Since the NM bowls inception, The NM Bowl has always been affiliated with Mountain West, AAC or Sun Belt. In fact, most years from 2006 on, the NM bowl has had two teams participate from the above mentioned 3 conferences.

I have met Jeff Siembieda, NM Bowl director and while I don't know him personally, he was sweating 9 mms around 2015. It was pretty much a given the bowl was a goner. Siembieda in 2016 was questioned about the future of the bowl and replied that ESPN had signed a new contract. I lived in the community from '99 to '22. The NM bowl is one of the many welfare bowls ESPN keeps afloat because they manage to extract revenue rather than profit. The other Bowls subsidize the welfare bowls and the espn theater just keeps going.

Although I'm a native Texan, I lived in the ABQ Metro for 20 + years. If you are going to the game, do not stay in any of the Hotels around the airport, I-25 corridor or Hotels along i-40. Instead stay at the Indian Pueblo cultural center hotels at 12th and I-40 approximately 6-7 miles from the game. Ind. Pueblo cultural center hotels have Native police who hate property crime violators.

I'm the grandson of a well-respected former owner of a tortilla/tamale factory restaurant in the lower valley of El Paso-La Tapatia. My Grandpa won at least a half dozen national legit Salsa/Pico de gallo contests in the 80s. Me and my brothers/cousins growing up were used as Guinea pigs by my grandpa for his borderline mad scientist concoctions. So, I am no expert, but I know mexican food.

The best ambience: El Pinto on n. 4th Sadie's on 4th. The best Huevos Rancheros with very little seating area... that would be El Modelo in Downtown. Barelas Coffee in downtown and Cocina Azul-Old Town downtown. The only complaint I have about ABQ Mexican food is they often use incorrect cheese in their enchiladas. rellenos and other cheddar variations. Mexican food should be prepped with white cheese like Oaxaca, Menonita or Asadero.

The most under the radar "non-tourist" tourist thing you could do is take drive up the turquoise trail hwy 14 on the east side of the abq mountains. It is unusually green vs. west side of the manzano mts. and the movie "Wild Hogs" has several filming sites that a former girlfriend dragged me into in 06 or 07 . Have a beer in Madrid NM, have another world flashback =in this little hybrid mountain/desert village. I was only dragged into looking into these film locations because I thought there was this astro chance to see Marisa Tomei.

Cool.
Is it an easy drive from Santa Fe? (never driven between the two before)

Marisa Tomei seems to be a wish list for many of us here. lol

 

[NewFrogFan]

Since the NM bowls inception, The NM Bowl has always been affiliated with Mountain West, AAC or Sun Belt. In fact, most years from 2006 on, the NM bowl has had two teams participate from the above mentioned 3 conferences.

I have met Jeff Siembieda, NM Bowl director and while I don't know him personally, he was sweating 9 mms around 2015. It was pretty much a given the bowl was a goner. Siembieda in 2016 was questioned about the future of the bowl and replied that ESPN had signed a new contract. I lived in the community from '99 to '22. The NM bowl is one of the many welfare bowls ESPN keeps afloat because they manage to extract revenue rather than profit. The other Bowls subsidize the welfare bowls and the espn theater just keeps going.

Although I'm a native Texan, I lived in the ABQ Metro for 20 + years. If you are going to the game, do not stay in any of the Hotels around the airport, I-25 corridor or Hotels along i-40. Instead stay at the Indian Pueblo cultural center hotels at 12th and I-40 approximately 6-7 miles from the game. Ind. Pueblo cultural center hotels have Native police who hate property crime violators.

I'm the grandson of a well-respected former owner of a tortilla/tamale factory restaurant in the lower valley of El Paso-La Tapatia. My Grandpa won at least a half dozen national legit Salsa/Pico de gallo contests in the 80s. Me and my brothers/cousins growing up were used as Guinea pigs by my grandpa for his borderline mad scientist concoctions. So, I am no expert, but I know mexican food.

The best ambience: El Pinto on n. 4th Sadie's on 4th. The best Huevos Rancheros with very little seating area... that would be El Modelo in Downtown. Barelas Coffee in downtown and Cocina Azul-Old Town downtown. The only complaint I have about ABQ Mexican food is they often use incorrect cheese in their enchiladas. rellenos and other cheddar variations. Mexican food should be prepped with white cheese like Oaxaca, Menonita or Asadero.

The most under the radar "non-tourist" tourist thing you could do is take drive up the turquoise trail hwy 14 on the east side of the abq mountains. It is unusually green vs. west side of the manzano mts. and the movie "Wild Hogs" has several filming sites that a former girlfriend dragged me into in 06 or 07 . Have a beer in Madrid NM, have another world flashback =in this little hybrid mountain/desert village. I was only dragged into looking into these film locations because I thought there was this astro chance to see Marisa Tomei.

I really like pico/salsa experts!!!

 

[SW toad]

So, they do that all the time. Some of them have connections and find out who the preferences are by the bowls. It wouldn't be hard to figure out that if one bowl wants KSU and one bowl wants CU and one bowl wants TT and the other wants BU that the next thing left is the NM Bowl.

Donati wouldn't have called the Liberty Bowl before anyone knew who they were going to pick to say "If you invite us we're turning it down.". It doesn't make any sense, and even if he hated them enough to do it he's smart enough to know the news would get out about it and it would reflect more poorly on him than anyone else. I haven't seen it anywhere on Twitter or from any news source whatsoever, just from this message board.

Fess up... who do you think or KNOW is TCUs General manager above the Athletic Director?? If we do not have a GM. Admit it. Be a real human being.

 

[SW toad]

Cool.
Is it an easy drive from Santa Fe? (never driven between the two before)

Marisa Tomei seems to be a wish list for many of us here. lol

The turquoise trail(Hwy 14) is an old mining highway between ABQ and Santa Fe. It is an easy drive between abq/santa fe. it is the literal equivalent of driving up I-25 through the gut of abq. T Trail is 45-55 mile per hour and the main hwy is 65-75 mph. So T Tail is at most 15 minutes longer but like driving through nirvana versus driving through ragweed.

 

[Mean Purple]

I'm sure if you sift around for the sources for as much time as you've spent bashing my last few posts, that's all you would have needed. You're a smart guy. I just think all the bed wetting about "someone at TCU supposedly told the Liberty Bowl to scheiss off" is hilarious.

sorry. was just jacking around. didn't mean to sound like I was bashing.

 

[AroundWorldFrog]

If you’re talking about Jeremy Clark, I don’t believe he made such an accusation. I’ve got an account on the 247 site ( primarily to follow recruiting), and I haven’t seen that. He did post that he was hearing smoke about the New Mexico bowl and commented that the the administration was upset with the Liberty Bowl over the Frogs treatment the last time we went, but nothing about us turning it down.

Yep.

 

[AroundWorldFrog]

Well, looks like I finally got an answer. (better answer this time)
I asked who they got the info from. some folks hinted and one said Jeremy.

Maybe some of us didn't really want to reference competive sites on here.

 

[AroundWorldFrog]

Hey [ Craig James]

Learn to read. The guy who claims Jeremy didn’t say it is blind @stbrab

Jeremy got dragged on the board for 50 pages for saying it.

Check the instagram comments for TCU football. You’re a waste of space.

50 pages of JC defending that he DIDN'T say it but that people can't read. And he is right.

He clearly said multiple times that the only thing TCU had ever objected to was the experience at a past Liberty Bowl (where apparently Georgia was put in a much nicer hotel than TCU) and NO ONE EVER OBJECTED TO GOING TO THE BOWL ITSELF. There's 50 pages because idiots can't read. I understood the first time I read what he said.

I am not going to quote another site here, but JC clearly said many, many times that he NEVER SAID TCU TURNED DOWN A BOWL.

jfc

 

[BrewingFrog]

Since the NM bowls inception, The NM Bowl has always been affiliated with Mountain West, AAC or Sun Belt. In fact, most years from 2006 on, the NM bowl has had two teams participate from the above mentioned 3 conferences.

I have met Jeff Siembieda, NM Bowl director and while I don't know him personally, he was sweating 9 mms around 2015. It was pretty much a given the bowl was a goner. Siembieda in 2016 was questioned about the future of the bowl and replied that ESPN had signed a new contract. I lived in the community from '99 to '22. The NM bowl is one of the many welfare bowls ESPN keeps afloat because they manage to extract revenue rather than profit. The other Bowls subsidize the welfare bowls and the espn theater just keeps going.

Although I'm a native Texan, I lived in the ABQ Metro for 20 + years. If you are going to the game, do not stay in any of the Hotels around the airport, I-25 corridor or Hotels along i-40. Instead stay at the Indian Pueblo cultural center hotels at 12th and I-40 approximately 6-7 miles from the game. Ind. Pueblo cultural center hotels have Native police who hate property crime violators.

I'm the grandson of a well-respected former owner of a tortilla/tamale factory restaurant in the lower valley of El Paso-La Tapatia. My Grandpa won at least a half dozen national legit Salsa/Pico de gallo contests in the 80s. Me and my brothers/cousins growing up were used as Guinea pigs by my grandpa for his borderline mad scientist concoctions. So, I am no expert, but I know mexican food.

The best ambience: El Pinto on n. 4th Sadie's on 4th. The best Huevos Rancheros with very little seating area... that would be El Modelo in Downtown. Barelas Coffee in downtown and Cocina Azul-Old Town downtown. The only complaint I have about ABQ Mexican food is they often use incorrect cheese in their enchiladas. rellenos and other cheddar variations. Mexican food should be prepped with white cheese like Oaxaca, Menonita or Asadero.

The most under the radar "non-tourist" tourist thing you could do is take drive up the turquoise trail hwy 14 on the east side of the abq mountains. It is unusually green vs. west side of the manzano mts. and the movie "Wild Hogs" has several filming sites that a former girlfriend dragged me into in 06 or 07 . Have a beer in Madrid NM, have another world flashback =in this little hybrid mountain/desert village. I was only dragged into looking into these film locations because I thought there was this astro chance to see Marisa Tomei.

Mrs. Brewingfrog (who wasn't at the time) and I dined at Sadie's when the Frogs visited ABQ in '92 for Pat Sullivan's first game as Head Coach. Absolutely delicious!

 

[FrogBall09]

You guys are hilarious.....as if any of this matters.

Donati didn't turn down the Liberty - because we never got invited. Did he have a bad relationship with the Bowl Director - yes he did and therefore we were never getting invited unless they could not justify any other school. Anyone that has been around since the MWC days remembers we never got invited to the Vegas for the bowl either and always ended up in San Diego - because the Bowl Director didn't like CDC. It is not uncommon when an AD picks another bowl one year or complains about something for the BD to hold a grudge and in the end - the AD politicing plays a big role in where a team ends up in the "nobody cares" bowls.

We did evidently opt out of going to a local bowl affiliated with the B12 - which would only be two options so I will let you guess which one. They school chose to go to unaffiliated New Mexico Bowl so the team at least gets to travel for their bowl. Remember what GP used to say - for some of these guys, this is the only Christmas they will get. I realize it is a little less true now with NIL, but still a fact for some of the players.

Bigger question you should ask is how - with such an amazing 8-4 record - we got relegated to playing a bowl game across town at our least favorite opponents crappy stadium or traveling to a bowl that should be cancelled to play a no win situation game?

Well gee - maybe because no one liked our former AD and everyone not a TCU fan realizes our 8-4 season was on top of a joke schedule....but hey I guess opinions vary - the end result does not.

 

[AroundWorldFrog]

You’re a liar and you know it.

scheiss you [ Arschloch]. You're out here calling people names when you have zero reading comphrehension. Go to the thread, click on staff for their comments only and several responses by JC say that he DID NOT SAY THAT.

 

[Mean Purple]

50 pages of JC defending that he DIDN'T say it but that people can't read. And he is right.

He clearly said multiple times that the only thing TCU had ever objected to was the experience at a past Liberty Bowl (where apparently Georgia was put in a much nicer hotel than TCU) and NO ONE EVER OBJECTED TO GOING TO THE BOWL ITSELF. There's 50 pages because idiots can't read. I understood the first time I read what he said.

I am not going to quote another site here, but JC clearly said many, many times that he NEVER SAID TCU TURNED DOWN A BOWL.

jfc

There was other stuff screwed up about that bowl game. ESPN camera rolled over some equipment and on field coaches could not communicate with the box on the TCU side for a period of time.

 

[bmoney214]

Real value is the additional practices.

But according to Sonny, we're the practice week National Champs. We always have good practices.