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MAcFroggy

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Pharm Frog said:
Why not try out for the TCU team? There’s nothing defining or limiting about X and Y chromosomes.
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Well then I assume the question would have used she/her pronouns not he. If the hypothetical person was identifying as a women then it should have been worded "she’d be playing right". By saying "he’d be playing right", I assumed the question was specifically asking about a man identifying as a man who was wanting to play women's volleyball not a man identifying as female who wanted to play on the women's volleyball team.

If this hypothetical person was identifying as female, then I do not have an answer. I am not sure what the current NCAA policy is regarding transgender/non-binary individuals.
 
LisaLT

LisaLT

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Eight said:
question, as a former competitive athlete (and possibly competing at the masters level now)

what were you thought on how this has been portrayed as a woman breaking down barriers when you saw her kick off and then running off the field
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Honestly - I thought it was a bit weird and purely for entertainment purposes only. I'm sure she is a very good soccer player, but this smacked of a publicity stunt for the struggling Vanderbilt team. One kick?? That is all? And not even a good kick? Am I being too harsh?
 
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Wexahu

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MAcFroggy said:
Well then I assume the question would have used she/her pronouns not he. If the hypothetical person was identifying as a women then it should have been worded "she’d be playing right". By saying "he’d be playing right", I assumed the question was specifically asking about a man identifying as a man who was wanting to play women's volleyball not a man identifying as female who wanted to play on the women's volleyball team.

If this hypothetical person was identifying as female, then I do not have an answer. I am not sure what the current NCAA policy is regarding transgender/non-binary individuals.
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There is a very very fine line between "progress" and just some flat out weird [ Finebaum ].
 
Eight

Eight

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LisaLT said:
Honestly - I thought it was a bit weird and purely for entertainment purposes only. I'm sure she is a very good soccer player, but this smacked of a publicity stunt for the struggling Vanderbilt team. One kick?? That is all? And not even a good kick? Am I being too harsh?
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too harsh?

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East Coast

East Coast

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LisaLT said:
Honestly - I thought it was a bit weird and purely for entertainment purposes only. I'm sure she is a very good soccer player, but this smacked of a publicity stunt for the struggling Vanderbilt team. One kick?? That is all? And not even a good kick? Am I being too harsh?
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Well, there is the fact the rest of the team played so putridly on offense that they didn't score a TD or even get to the 30 yard line. There were no other opportunities so we will never know. She looked capable of making an extra point in warmups; and also very possibly having an extra point attempt blocked.
 
Hoosierfrog

Hoosierfrog

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MAcFroggy said:
Because men's volleyball is an available NCAA sport. TCU just does not sponsor that sport. He could potentially transfer to another school to play.
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That’s kind of the point. Why should he have to transfer if he loves TCU and he’s on a BB scholly? Would he not benefit the women’s team?

Okay, if you don’t like that scenario, let’s say there is a world class men’s fast pitch softball player at a school, since there is no men’s softball, would he be allowed to join the women? I’m guessing not.
 
froginmn

froginmn

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Hoosierfrog said:
That’s kind of the point. Why should he have to transfer if he loves TCU and he’s on a BB scholly? Would he not benefit the women’s team?

Okay, if you don’t like that scenario, let’s say there is a world class men’s fast pitch softball player at a school, since there is no men’s softball, would he be allowed to join the women? I’m guessing not.
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Well, there's no women's team at TCU either...
 
JogginFrog

JogginFrog

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Here's the NCAA policy, published 2011 and referenced on at least one school's athletics web site as of 2019:

The following policies clarify participation of transgender student-athletes undergoing hormonal treatment for gender transition:

1. A trans male (FTM) student-athlete who has received a medical exception for treatment with testosterone for diagnosed Gender Identity Disorder or gender dysphoria and/or Transsexualism, for purposes of NCAA competition may compete on a men’s team, but is no longer eligible to compete on a women’s team without changing that team status to a mixed team.

2. A trans female (MTF) student-athlete being treated with testosterone suppression medication for Gender Identity Disorder or gender dysphoria and/or Transsexualism, for the purposes of NCAA competition may continue to compete on a men’s team but may not compete on a women’s team without changing it to a mixed team status until completing one calendar year of testosterone suppression treatment.

Any transgender student-athlete who is not taking hormone treatment related to gender transition may participate in sex-separated sports activities in accordance with his or her assigned birth gender.

• A trans male (FTM) student-athlete who is not taking testosterone related to gender transition may participate on a men’s or women’s team.

• A trans female (MTF) transgender student-athlete who is not taking hormone treatments related to gender transition may not compete on a women’s team.
 

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