Rules Questions for 2024

[Zebra Frog]

Some of you said you enjoyed these in past years. I will try to post one every Friday, and maybe something on Monday about a play I saw over the weekend.

Third and goal at the B-5 with 1:19 remaining in the 4th quarter. A24 runs toward the goal line pylon, and the Head Line Judge rules a Touchdown. Video shows that A24 lost possession of the ball at the B-1, and the loose ball struck the pylon.
a) A, Try at the B-3 - No Clock
b) A, 4/Goal at the B-1 - Clock starts on the Ready
c) A, 4/6 at the B-1 - Clock starts on the Snap
d) B, 1/10 at the B-20 - Clock starts on the Snap

 

[CryptoMiner]

assume since the ball hit the pylon it reached the endzone, so a touchback D

 

[TxFrog1999]

assume since the ball hit the pylon it reached the endzone, so a touchback D

This

 

[hometown frog]

Turnover w a touchback

 

[Horned Toad]

D

 

[Horned Toad]

Some of you said you enjoyed these in past years. I will try to post one every Friday, and maybe something on Monday about a play I saw over the weekend.

Third and goal at the B-5 with 1:19 remaining in the 4th quarter. A24 runs toward the goal line pylon, and the Head Line Judge rules a Touchdown. Video shows that A24 lost possession of the ball at the B-1, and the loose ball struck the pylon.
a) A, Try at the B-3 - No Clock
b) A, 4/Goal at the B-1 - Clock starts on the Ready
c) A, 4/6 at the B-1 - Clock starts on the Snap
d) B, 1/10 at the B-20 - Clock starts on the Snap

Love these by the way Zebra, appreciate the effort!

 

[Mean Purple]

Some of you said you enjoyed these in past years. I will try to post one every Friday, and maybe something on Monday about a play I saw over the weekend.

Third and goal at the B-5 with 1:19 remaining in the 4th quarter. A24 runs toward the goal line pylon, and the Head Line Judge rules a Touchdown. Video shows that A24 lost possession of the ball at the B-1, and the loose ball struck the pylon.
a) A, Try at the B-3 - No Clock
b) A, 4/Goal at the B-1 - Clock starts on the Ready
c) A, 4/6 at the B-1 - Clock starts on the Snap
d) B, 1/10 at the B-20 - Clock starts on the Snap

D.

 

[EVOfrogMR]

D.

 

[PurplFrawg]

@Zebra Frog

wellllllllllll?

 

[Zebra Frog]

Great job, y’all. The correct answer is D. The Friday questions will have to be a little more difficult.

 

[Paint It Purple]

The recent years practice of players stretching the ball with one hand toward the goal line has a huge downside risk/reward. Especially in last minute situations, as per your example.

 

[Zebra Frog]

I wanted to put a poll in here, but failed miserably in my effort, so here is the question and feel free create it as a poll so answers can be anonymous.

At the end of the USC - LSU game, an LSU DB was called for targeting near the sideline. The call was confirmed by Replay. Do you think the call was targeting or not?

 

[FROGLEGHOP]

Didn't see a slo-mo replay, but it sure looked like a leading with the head hit with head to head contact, so, yes. Targeting.

 

[hometown frog]

I wanted to put a poll in here, but failed miserably in my effort, so here is the question and feel free create it as a poll so answers can be anonymous.

At the end of the USC - LSU game, an LSU DB was called for targeting near the sideline. The call was confirmed by Replay. Do you think the call was targeting or not?

Yes X 2. I thought he led w the crown of the helmet to the head or neck area AND launched himself towards the player. So I thought it met both aspects of targeting and meant it didn’t matter if we thought the USC was defenseless or not.

 

[Frog-in-law1995]

Didn't see a slo-mo replay, but it sure looked like a leading with the head hit with head to head contact, so, yes. Targeting.

This. I suppose the reason you’re bringing it up is because you disagree, but I can’t think of why, unless maybe there was a recent change to the targeting rule I missed. Sure looks to me like the LSU player leads with the crown of his helmet and the first point of contact between the players is helmet to helmet.

 

[Horned Toad]

I agreed with the call based on how I understand the rule.

 

[Atomic Frawg]

This. I suppose the reason you’re bringing it up is because you disagree, but I can’t think of why, unless maybe there was a recent change to the targeting rule I missed. Sure looks to me like the LSU player leads with the crown of his helmet and the first point of contact between the players is helmet to helmet.

I wanted to put a poll in here, but failed miserably in my effort, so here is the question and feel free create it as a poll so answers can be anonymous.

At the end of the USC - LSU game, an LSU DB was called for targeting near the sideline. The call was confirmed by Replay. Do you think the call was targeting or not?

The officials confirmed it as targeting in the game. So, you, as @Frog-in-law1995 suggests, must disagree with the call? Otherwise, is this a trick question?

 

[Bigpurple872]

Can't advance a fumble

 

[Zebra Frog]

I didn't say I disagreed, but I am aware that some of you might, and I wanted to open it up for discussion.
The one thing that needs to be remembered is that "helmet to helmet" contact is NOT automatically targeting. By that I mean that a player could lead with his facemask and make contact with the runner's helmet and that would never be targeting unless it was deemed to be against a defenseless player. In this case, instead of only looking at if it was the crown or not, I think you can make the case the receiver was still defenseless, the question being was he in a position to defend himself? That is up for interpretation.

The following is my opinion only. What Replay has done over the years in an effort to be perfect is to look at things too technically. This leads to long reviews. Targeting was instituted for safety purposes. All they need to do is enforce unnecessary, intentional, and avoidable helmet to helmet contact as a personal foul. Forget trying to determine if it was with the crown or not. Some guys think one inch can be the difference. They often try and pick pepper out of fly poop.

 

[AroundWorldFrog]

@Zebra Frog , quick question. Unsportsmanlike conduct is obviously subjective to some degree. Why would they call a player for trying to rip the ball from the ball carriers hands after the whistle? Happens every play, every game. Seems like Camara was randomly targeted for that.