Don't have time or the database to search, but "the history on college football is a long time". Heck in TCU history alone, Abe Martin and Dutch Meyer were probably in their positions too long. They don't meet your exact criteria, but for example Dutch Meyer had one year with a winning conference record in his last 8 years. He was very middling to finish out his career:
| Year | Team | Overall | Conference | Standing | Bowl/playoffs | Coaches# | AP° |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| TCU Horned Frogs (Southwest Conference) (1934–1952) | |||||||
| 1934 | TCU | 8–4 | 3–3 | 4th | |||
| 1935 | TCU | 12–1 | 5–1 | 2nd | W Sugar | ||
| 1936 | TCU | 9–2–2 | 4–1–1 | 2nd | W Cotton | 16 | |
| 1937 | TCU | 4–4–2 | 3–1–2 | 2nd | |||
| 1938 | TCU | 11–0 | 6–0 | 1st | W Sugar | 1 | |
| 1939 | TCU | 3–7 | 1–5 | 6th | |||
| 1940 | TCU | 3–7 | 2–4 | 5th | |||
| 1941 | TCU | 7–3–1 | 4–1–1 | T–2nd | L Orange | ||
| 1942 | TCU | 7–3 | 4–2 | 3rd | |||
| 1943 | TCU | 2–6 | 1–4 | T–5th | |||
| 1944 | TCU | 7–3–1 | 3–1–1 | 1st | L Cotton | ||
| 1945 | TCU | 5–5 | 3–3 | T–3rd | |||
| 1946 | TCU | 2–7–1 | 2–4 | T–5th | |||
| 1947 | TCU | 4–5–2 | 2–3–1 | 4th | L Delta | ||
| 1948 | TCU | 4–5–1 | 1–4–1 | 6th | |||
| 1949 | TCU | 6–3–1 | 3–3 | T–3rd | |||
| 1950 | TCU | 5–5 | 3–3 | T–3rd | |||
| 1951 | TCU | 6–5 | 5–1 | 1st | L Cotton | 10 | 11 |
| 1952 | TCU | 4–4–2 | 2–2–2 | 4th | |||
| TCU: | 109–79–13 | 57–46–9 | |||||
| Total: | 109–79–13 |
Agreed. National media starting to report on the program’s issues will add fuel to the fire. We have to start asking the “who can we get that’s better than Gary question” though. I like Dykes, but my gut tells me we need to go younger. Throw the bag at PJ Fleck or Billy Napier? Napier will be a hot name for LSU job, but I would love either of those two guys at TCU.
Its done in the military too. The last President should have cleaned out a bunch of Federal “houses” on day one.
There are a few decision makers who speak louder than others.. Those few believe Gary deserves the courtesy of letting him stay until the contract ends. Plus, there is good amount of money which will owed to Patterson. This is pure speculation from me based on my experience. Immediately my thoughts are, well here we are again, history repeating itself and we were lucky to have the wins in the first place. I would like an answer to ---just what is the vision of football (the hard answer please). Some thoughts are, TCU can't compete with the more active programs, the money needed and be satisfied with being just competitive and the notoriety it gives no matter the win proficiency. Sounds like SMU a little.
If Gary stays we easily draw a combined butts in seats attendance of under 100,000 next year while going 4-8 at best. Our season ticket sales will plummet, our applications/enrollment will be impacted, recruiting will completely tank, the better players on the team will head elsewhere, and I won’t watch one second of it. Anyone not horrified by any of that beyond the part about me can KMFA.
100%. It’s a very grim and sobering thought, but it’s probably the reality we face if the university isn’t proactive to make a change. VA Tech let Frank Beamer leave on his terms, and they’re still recovering from his last few years.
