Name Your Head Coaching Candidates

[Chongo94]

You said nothing since 2014 misremember?

Yeah….DO YOU NOT MATH?? 2014 - 2021 is 7 years. 2 and a half years of success out of 6-7 years is not “success.”

 

[Chongo94]

I’m not gonna debate this further. It was time and a large majority of fans and alumni felt the same way. Some can’t get over it, clearly. What’s done is done and now we need to deal with the current coaching catastrophe.

 

[The Bad Guy]

I’m not gonna debate this further. It was time and a large majority of fans and alumni felt the same way. Some can’t get over it, clearly. What’s done is done and now we need to deal with the current coaching catastrophe.

Nobody on this forum doesn’t respect what GP did. The man is a legend and made TCU and maybe Fort Worth a mark on the map. However, like most things in life… people wear out there welcome, or things pass them by. It’s not a knock on the person (I really wish he ended his career in better terms too) but it is what it is. Let’s build for the future and hell…. Maybe GP will be a part of that in the background.

 

[Dutch]

This must be Mrs. Patterson. It happens man, coaches grow stale and a change is needed. It just so happened Dykes was probably not the answer. College football has also drastically changed since 2014-2015.

You left out 2022 for which he provided 95% of the talent and was denied the opportunity for his finest team. Figures lie and liers figure. .

 

[Dutch]

I’m not gonna debate this further. It was time and a large majority of fans and alumni felt the same way. Some can’t get over it, clearly. What’s done is done and now we need to deal with the current coaching catastrophe

Yeah….DO YOU NOT MATH?? 2014 - 2021 is 7 years. 2 and a half years of success out of 6-7 years is not “success.”

2022 would have been his best team.

 

[Frog-in-law1995]

You left out 2022 for which he provided 95% of the talent and was denied the opportunity for his finest team. Figures lie and liers figure. .

Why didn’t he take advantage of that “finest team” opportunity in 2021 rather than starting 3-5?

 

[Dutch]

Why didn’t he take advantage of that “finest team” opportunity in 2021 rather than starting 3-5?

The question is 2022. So you expect a double digit win year every year. How is that working out ?

 

[82 Frog Fever]

Wrong! Thank you for making my point. 2015 11-2, 2017 11-3, COVID year 6-4 with a couple of very close losses. You sir are the one misremembering.if you are wrong on the facts just make it up.

On the field, TCU was coached and played fairly well doing that period.
Under the surface, especially in recruiting, problems really started to become more apparent, and by the 2021 season, the wheels came off. The recruiting success hit rate was horrible and the transfers (when the portal came into being) began to decimate the quality of the roster.
Then the frustrations piled on and boiled over. Kolby Listenbee filed his big lawsuit that we settled secretly, GP was accused of using the N word in team meetings, and a civil war of sorts brewed in the locker room. …GP got fired.
By 2022 we had very few freshmen and sophs that would pan out.
So Sonny inherited an upperclassman laden team with big holes. He was able to temporarily fix it by finding approx. 10 portal players (Emani Bailey, Alan Ali, Perry, Wiley, etc…) and we made a great run. It was amazing luck/skill. Sonny hit on all 10 transfers being immediate 1st or 2nd stringers.
…..but underneath, our H.S. recruiting roster was a crap show that we are now dealing with.
There are nearly -0- H.S. upperclassmen on this team from GP‘s 2019-21 classes.
That has crushed us as we have tried to fix it in the short term with the portal, which is all we can do at this point.

 

[82 Frog Fever]

2022 would have been his best team.

That is completely wrong.

 

[NewFrogFan]

2022 would have been his best team.

I dont think so, Rose Bowl and 2014 were better. 2022 hit a “lucky” streak on 1 score games.

 

[Rabidfrog]

money whip Aranda

 

[bp4tcu]

Give Joey McGuire a blank check.

 

[This Ain't Chopped Liver]

Virginia football (4-1) is better than Frog football. Former TCU candidate, Tony Elliott (age 44), is building that program up from the cellar. He wanted the TCU job, but TCU was sold on Dykes’ Texas congeniality, sheesh - not everything in Texas is better

 

[gohornedfrogs]

Yeah….DO YOU NOT MATH?? 2014 - 2021 is 7 years. 2 and a half years of success out of 6-7 years is not “success.”

Sorry to be pedantic, but that’s eight seasons.

 

[Chongo94]

Sorry to be pedantic, but that’s eight seasons.

That’s alright, I hope you get checked for that.

 

[NewFrogFan]

money whip Aranda

He is a good coach and knows just enough about defense to make one effective enough to win. Jeaux Burreaux would say the same.

 

[FROGLEGHOP]

Just get a new very deep pocketed and willing NIL donor

 

[Limey Frog]

2022 would have been his best team.

Not if he'd have still been coaching it.

The players in 2022 clearly needed a change. Apparently they needed it so badly that it pretty much didn't matter who we hired as head coach.

 

[Horned Frog Country]

You left out 2022 for which he provided 95% of the talent and was denied the opportunity for his finest team. Figures lie and liers figure. .

Do you really think all of the talented players would have stayed had he stayed around for 2022? I suspect we would have had some players transfer had he stayed in 2022. I doubt we get certain players in the portal that made a difference that year.

 

[HornyWartyToad]

It would be a comprehensive plan, not just some lip service about 'doing better.' It would include the hiring of new coaches, requesting new resources (human and capital), development and implementation of new strategies and/or training methods, culture development, and a two-three year plan of how this would progress.

If the leadership doesn't like the plan or the answers, or if Sonny's ego won't let him cooperate, then they can show him the door. That's how it works in big business.

One of the most awkwardly memorable pressers I’ve ever seen was when Wade Phillips was coaching Dallas. He had just endured a very mediocre season, and you could just tell that he’d come to the cameras on the heels of a most unpleasant sit-down with Jerruh.
Had the most hang-dog look you’ll ever see on a guy not on Death Row, and in trying to address his plan for improvement the next season, literally uttered the words, “We just have to be more, you know, whatever.”
Of course he was gone the following year.
I suspect that’s the kind of improvement plan we’d get from Sonny right now, if he had to try to articulate one.