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Morning after: take-aways thread

LisaLT

Active Member
It’s the scheme. Too many unblocked players on run plays. Instead of drawing up run plays that put a body on a body, Tapefingers relies on subterfuge, which isn’t how a run game becomes consistent. Also, Cook needs to run north and south, see the tiniest sliver of light and hit that hole. He started doing that in the 2nd half. Holes aren’t always big, you just need to get past that 1st layer.
What I found interesting - Briles had no tape on his fingers this game. Some other person standing on the sidelines did however. I wonder what is going on with that. A new look perhaps? Or did I miss something?
 

puckster59

Active Member
One other area of coaching/offense that was bothersome: Frogs outplayed Stanford in the third and then had consecutive possessions with great field position and a chance to open up a close game and did nothing. Hope it becomes a teaching moment. When you have an opponent on the ropes, put them away.
 

SW toad

Active Member
The two fumbles resulted in 10-14 pt swing for Stanford. Richardson fumbles and Stanford gets it at our 20 resulting in a Stanford TD. Hoover/ Cook fumble near Stanford goal line to take away a 3-7 pt score for us.
Yes... I remember in the Jimmy Johnson days Miami or Dallas Urban Meyer days at Flo and most coaches in the 90s early 2000s, you sat out several series when you fumbled. Heck, put in one of the 170 lb frosh after Cam Cook muffs like that. If you give up a fumble like Richardson did with no contact., Sit his ass down and give a few of the series to some other receivers.
I like Cam Cook and think his change of direction/contact balance is superior to Emani Bailey.
 

82 Frog Fever

Active Member
It’s the scheme. Too many unblocked players on run plays. Instead of drawing up run plays that put a body on a body, Tapefingers relies on subterfuge, which isn’t how a run game becomes consistent. Also, Cook needs to run north and south, see the tiniest sliver of light and hit that hole. He started doing that in the 2nd half. Holes aren’t always big, you just need to get past that 1st layer.
It’s not really the scheme.
We don’t have the players for the scheme he is running.
Kendal’s offenses only work well when he has huge OLs & RBs that are able to gash the middle. He doesn’t have either of those at TCU, as a result, Briles is forced to run a lot of pre-snap motion and misdirection.

As you can see below, Briles’ offense only has a winning record when it runs for 200+ ypg.
Right now, I doubt we could come close to 200 ypg rushing

2015 BU 10-3 327 rushing ypg
2016 BU 7-6 242
2017 FA 11-3 285
2018 UH 8-5 216
2019 FSU 6-7 140
2020 UA 3-7 151
2021 UA 9-4 229
2022 UA 7-6 236
2023 TCU 5-7 155
 

Wexahu

Full Member
It’s not really the scheme.
We don’t have the players for the scheme he is running.
Kendal’s offenses only work well when he has huge OLs & RBs that are able to gash the middle. He doesn’t have either of those at TCU, as a result, Briles is forced to run a lot of pre-snap motion and misdirection.

As you can see below, Briles’ offense only has a winning record when it runs for 200+ ypg.
Right now, I doubt we could come close to 200 ypg rushing

2015 BU 10-3 327 rushing ypg
2016 BU 7-6 242
2017 FA 11-3 285
2018 UH 8-5 216
2019 FSU 6-7 140
2020 UA 3-7 151
2021 UA 9-4 229
2022 UA 7-6 236
2023 TCU 5-7 155
Offenses don’t have winning or losing records. Teams do.
 

82 Frog Fever

Active Member
Ok, but it seems like you’re trying really hard to be critical.
I don’t mean to be.
History just shows Briles‘ offense needs a very strong rushing component in order to consistently produce at a high level.
If Briles has a team with the skills to run for 216 ypg / 2,600 yds a season; then his offense works great. Otherwise, not so good.
Maybe that changes this year.

Note: TCU has not finished with 216 ypg rushing in a full regular season since joining the B12. Came very close in ‘15.
 
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BrewingFrog

Was I supposed to type something here?
I don’t mean to be.
History just shows Briles‘ offense needs a very strong rushing component in order to consistently produce at a high level.
If Briles has a team with the skills to run for 216 ypg / 2,600 yds a season; then his offense works great. Otherwise, not so good.
Maybe that changes this year.

Note: TCU has not finished with 216 ypg rushing in a full regular season since joining the B12. Came very close in ‘15.
We have to be able to run the danged ball. Period. Full stop.

Warden Art loved the Run & Shoot concept of a mesh on every play. This kept the LBs in tighter than they would be otherwise.
 

Limey Frog

Full Member
Ok, but it seems like you’re trying really hard to be critical.
I think taking the line that being able to run the ball might not matter is harder work mentally. Default assumption should be that if we can't do that we should be worried. That said, if you struggle to run the ball it's better to have a solid defense and good passing attack than to be terrible at those things as well. This team is obviously going to be better than last year.
 
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