March Madness Thread

[ShreveFrog]

My point would be that if you are going to stop the game for 4 minutes to see if a ball went out after being touched by someone's fingernail, you should be able to say wouldn't have happened if the player hadn't been fouled.

The reviews will be never ending. I'm not a fan. I liked sports better before all this replay garbage.

 

[Pharm Frog]

That’s my problem with replay in basketball. Lots of times refs let contact go uncalled because they just give possession to the team and move on. But if replay shows otherwise, you can’t go back and call the foul. Exactly what
Happened tonight. They were not calling the foul because they want to give tech the benefit of the fast break, but it backfires and ultimately screws tech.

I don't understand what makes the last two minutes sacrosanct either. If just one call harmed one possession in the prior 18 minutes of the second half, this game wouldn't have gone to overtime. To me this means that we aren't really using replay to get calls correct. We're using it selectively to get some calls correct.

 

[yurintroubl]

I agree with this and with the fact that UVA hacks and reaches in on every possession as well. This was being talked about all day long on sports talk radio. My point would be that if you are going to stop the game for 4 minutes to see if a ball went out after being touched by someone's fingernail, you should be able to say wouldn't have happened if the player hadn't been fouled.

That's what happens when you have 2 teams playing defense at all times..... both ends of the court and switching up schemes intelligently throughout. I'm just glad the team from the school with the astronomically higher academic standards beat the the state school with twice the enrollment/idiot fanbase.

 

[The Artist Formerly Known as PhormerPhrog]

These refs screwed up a great game. Guy slipped on his own but he got rewarded free throws.

Then Guy hacks Moretti but the refs take a 5-minute review with disputable evidence and give the ball to Virginia. I guess the storyline was too good to pass up.

Virginia has gotten very lucky all tournament

Good grief, the bitching about officiating on this board is about to drive me away permanently.

 

[yurintroubl]

Mahomes looks like he's following the Brian Cushing offseason program.

Over/under on years to stretch marks and a manzierre: 3.5?

 

[ShreveFrog]

Well, when an obvious double dribble is not reviewed and that team gets into the finals, and then they get a crucial call by a maybe pinky fingernail graze after they slapped the ball out -- I mean, it's ridiculous.

 

[PO Frog]

I agree with this and with the fact that UVA hacks and reaches in on every possession as well. This was being talked about all day long on sports talk radio. My point would be that if you are going to stop the game for 4 minutes to see if a ball went out after being touched by someone's fingernail, you should be able to say wouldn't have happened if the player hadn't been fouled.

And yet Samuel breathes on a guy wrong and gets whistled. He got called for more fouls when he wasn’t even contesting than anyone I’ve ever seen.
Maybe you just own it and keep hacking. Basically what WVU does and dares you to call it every possession. Seemed to work for TT and UVA.

 

[TooColdU]

Good grief, the bitching about officiating on this board is about to drive me away permanently.

I rarely complain about the officials.

Look at this play. Tech was up 3 in OT. Guy gets tripped by his own teammate and they called a foul on Tech that gives Virginia free throws. UVA went on a 11-0 run after that call. That’s a huge shift in momentum.

 

[Portland Frog]

Hats off to TT for a great game and season.

 

[Christcu]

I rarely complain about the officials.

Look at this play. Tech was up 3 in OT. Guy gets tripped by his own teammate and they called a foul on Tech that gives Virginia free throws. UVA ended going on a 11-0 run. That’s a huge shift in momentum.

one of the worst calls in Finals history...

 

[yurintroubl]

one of the worst calls in Finals history...

Saints fan here to enjoy the hyperbole.

FWIW - I'm pretty sure Tech players got away with stepping on the endline with ball in hand at least 3 times. Twice for sure in the middle of the 2nd half. I was shocked when the ref actually called it.

 

[TooColdU]

Virginia is the 2nd team ever to win the NCAA tournament without having to play a 1 or 2 seed.

1990 UNLV was the 1st

 

[The Artist Formerly Known as PhormerPhrog]

I rarely complain about the officials.

Look at this play. Tech was up 3 in OT. Guy gets tripped by his own teammate and they called a foul on Tech that gives Virginia free throws. UVA went on a 11-0 run after that call. That’s a huge shift in momentum.

So that call caused them to give up 9 more points¿

 

[froginmn]

I was at the dance last night and they asked fans to stop throwing objects onto the floor. Told my friend it was probably a tortilla. Uh, yep.

Stay classy, TTU




(not going to fix the autocorrect because dance is just as good as game)

 

[froginmn]

I said this to my friend at the game last night - the FT shooting by both teams was phenomenal!

Just checked the box score now and they both shot 87% from the stripe.

I don't think that is necessarily always a difference maker between an OK team and a good one but it can be, and it was fun to watch the nice work at the line last night.

 

[ShreveFrog]

So that call caused them to give up 9 more points¿

C'mon now. They were driving for a tying or go-ahead bucket. It was a game changer.

 

[ShreveFrog]

The call TooColdU shows was big, too. Gave the Hoos an almost automatic 2 points when it should've been Tech ball. I don't know how the official called a foul there. Terrible.

 

[Eight]

And yet Samuel breathes on a guy wrong and gets whistled. He got called for more fouls when he wasn’t even contesting than anyone I’ve ever seen.
Maybe you just own it and keep hacking. Basically what WVU does and dares you to call it every possession. Seemed to work for TT and UVA.

if you consistently play that way it seems to be acceptable.

we see it time and time again when you have a team play aggressively on the defensive end and push the limit.

nolan richardson's arkansas teams would continually double team on the trap and the player coming from the back would reach around and slap at the ball simply because they knew there was a point where the officials would stop calling it during the game.

gary payton made a career in the nba out of hand checking and yes tech and uva do it with the best of anyone in the country. what i found most interesting about uva was the way the one play would dribble with the opposite arm extended out to clear space.

do i know that tech wins if the proper call is made when one uva player trips another and ball goes out of bounds and tech should have the ball with a chance to go up 2 possessions? no, but to say it had no impact is one of those points that can't be proven either way and it is just unfortunate that after the game we end up again with conversation about a couple of missed calls instead of the game.

finally, if culver doesn't realize after these last two games he needs to stay in school and develop an outside shot i don't know what to tell him.

in college he is a very good 6' 4-5" athlete who can get to the rim, but in the nba without a jumper he is just another guy.

 

[Realtorfrog]

These refs screwed up a great game. Guy slipped on his own but he got rewarded free throws.

Then Guy hacks Moretti but the refs take a 5-minute review with disputable evidence and give the ball to Virginia. I guess the storyline was too good to pass up.

Virginia has gotten very lucky all tournament

Yeah the announcers loved the getting beat by a 16 seed to Champs, as did the refs