ESPN: What to watch for in first College Football Playoff rankings
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Your point aside, I think in this era of college football you’ll see lots of players sitting out the NY6 games, so unfortunately those games aren’t going to be what they used to.
And if they expand the playoffs to 12, I think some surefire 1st round draft picks might even consider sitting those games out, especially if they are on teams that don’t really have a realistic chance of advancing far, of which there will be many. We’ll see.
CountryFrog
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So he references a Joel Klatt tweet to say that "TCU needs to quit whining?"
Is Joel Klatt affiliated with TCU in some way that I'm not aware of?
Boomhauer
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Wait, Gil is still out there? Has he refunded everyone for that website he had that kept charging subscribers despite not putting out any content?
CountryFrog
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Oh God yes, let's please get the players sitting out bowl games discussion fired up on November 1st. Can I get a side of conference realignment speculation with that?
Eight
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More Frogs the Better
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From the looks of him, he spent it at the grocery store.
The breakdown of how 12 team cfp would look after expansion: SEC (5), Big10 (3), Big12 (1), ACC (1), PAC (1) & G5 (1). When expanded to 12 a conference with divisions would afford more teams a spot at the back end11 & 12 big $ cfp spots through less cannibalization. K-State & OSU are knocking on the door, but will lose out to an Ole Miss.
Bruce Berry
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Fred Garvin
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I guess we need to hire some hookers for the CFP committee?
I'm not cheap. Venmo is @Fred-Garvin-Male-Prostitute
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froglash88
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Muck, You try way too hard
tcudoc
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Worth the price. I’ll vouch for him.
Nick Danger
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Aww, another "Back in my day" curmudgeonly remembrance from ol' Gil. Those are such nostalgic treasures! His decade-old "Just Keep Winning" admonition, dusted off and brought back to life, is a particular Golden Oldie, as is another Patterson chestnut "Don't worry about style points, just win by one!"
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geezer
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TCU is #1 on the ESPN CFP Anger List:
Here's Week 10's College Football Playoff Anger Index.
1. TCU (8-0), ranked seventh: Yes, we know the argument. TCU just hasn't been dominant. It's a case that might hold water if dominance was the criteria for the teams just ahead of Horned Frogs.
TCU has had eight second-half drives this season when trailing. That's actually one fewer than No. 4 Clemson.
TCU has three wins by seven points or less, but the team one spot ahead -- Alabama -- has two and a loss.
TCU hasn't proved enough to overcome some of the obvious drawbacks. But hey, Michigan's seven-point win over Maryland -- the Wolverines' second-best opponent this year -- must've really impressed the committee.
The folks in the committee room claim to care only about résumé -- who have you beaten? -- and don't look ahead or consider past seasons. So how then to make heads or tails of TCU's No. 7 placement?
The Horned Frogs have four wins over teams that were ranked. That's the same as Michigan, Georgia and Alabama combined.
The Horned Frogs have four road wins, double the tally for Ohio State, Georgia, Michigan or Alabama.
The Horned Frogs have run 20 offensive plays in the fourth quarter when trailing. That's just three more than Georgia, and they all came against better opposition than Missouri.
The Horned Frogs are No. 3 in ESPN's strength of record, which measures the odds an average top-25 team would have the same record vs. the same schedule. That's ahead of No. 5 Georgia, No. 6 Alabama and No. 7 Michigan.
But there's a bigger debate here on how schedule difficulty should be considered. Yes, Tennessee and Georgia have marquee wins, and there's a reasonable chance TCU would've lost had it played Oregon or Alabama. But is it tougher to play a schedule that includes one incredibly difficult opponent and a bunch of cupcakes (as Georgia has) or to go a full month playing decent (if not elite) top-25 teams (as TCU has)?
The argument for TCU is strong -- stronger too because the committee seemed to indicate a belief in the quality of the Big 12 with the rest of its rankings. (Kansas State and Texas fared better in the CFP ranking than in the polls.) So it's unfortunate that confidence wasn't extended to the Horned Frogs. Because while the opening rankings don't often mean much in the big picture, they do set the stage. And as it stands, TCU has done as much as anyone save Tennessee, and it's still not good enough to eclipse even a one-loss Alabama.
For Tennessee, Georgia, Michigan, Alabama and Ohio State, the season will determine who ends up in the top four -- starting with this week's games for those SEC schools. But for TCU, these rankings suggest it's not just about winning. The Horned Frogs need to win bigger, win better and still hope the teams ranked higher will falter enough to convince the committee to change its perceptions.
www.espn.com
Anger Index
It's outrage season in college football, and with Tuesday's release of the first 2022 CFP rankings, there's plenty of anger to go around.Here's Week 10's College Football Playoff Anger Index.
1. TCU (8-0), ranked seventh: Yes, we know the argument. TCU just hasn't been dominant. It's a case that might hold water if dominance was the criteria for the teams just ahead of Horned Frogs.
TCU has had eight second-half drives this season when trailing. That's actually one fewer than No. 4 Clemson.
TCU has three wins by seven points or less, but the team one spot ahead -- Alabama -- has two and a loss.
TCU hasn't proved enough to overcome some of the obvious drawbacks. But hey, Michigan's seven-point win over Maryland -- the Wolverines' second-best opponent this year -- must've really impressed the committee.
The folks in the committee room claim to care only about résumé -- who have you beaten? -- and don't look ahead or consider past seasons. So how then to make heads or tails of TCU's No. 7 placement?
The Horned Frogs have four wins over teams that were ranked. That's the same as Michigan, Georgia and Alabama combined.
The Horned Frogs have four road wins, double the tally for Ohio State, Georgia, Michigan or Alabama.
The Horned Frogs have run 20 offensive plays in the fourth quarter when trailing. That's just three more than Georgia, and they all came against better opposition than Missouri.
The Horned Frogs are No. 3 in ESPN's strength of record, which measures the odds an average top-25 team would have the same record vs. the same schedule. That's ahead of No. 5 Georgia, No. 6 Alabama and No. 7 Michigan.
But there's a bigger debate here on how schedule difficulty should be considered. Yes, Tennessee and Georgia have marquee wins, and there's a reasonable chance TCU would've lost had it played Oregon or Alabama. But is it tougher to play a schedule that includes one incredibly difficult opponent and a bunch of cupcakes (as Georgia has) or to go a full month playing decent (if not elite) top-25 teams (as TCU has)?
The argument for TCU is strong -- stronger too because the committee seemed to indicate a belief in the quality of the Big 12 with the rest of its rankings. (Kansas State and Texas fared better in the CFP ranking than in the polls.) So it's unfortunate that confidence wasn't extended to the Horned Frogs. Because while the opening rankings don't often mean much in the big picture, they do set the stage. And as it stands, TCU has done as much as anyone save Tennessee, and it's still not good enough to eclipse even a one-loss Alabama.
For Tennessee, Georgia, Michigan, Alabama and Ohio State, the season will determine who ends up in the top four -- starting with this week's games for those SEC schools. But for TCU, these rankings suggest it's not just about winning. The Horned Frogs need to win bigger, win better and still hope the teams ranked higher will falter enough to convince the committee to change its perceptions.
College Football Playoff rankings: What we learned, a hypothetical 12-team field and the Anger Index
Tennessee tops the first of six rankings that will determine the participants of this year's College Football Playoff. Here's what we learned, who should be upset, our early game predictions and a 12-team preview.
www.espn.com
Austintxfrog94
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Hope the team is either ignoring this or using it as motivation. If they adopt the "sky is falling" attitude some folks have around here they could easily lose the next 4.
Ron Swanson
Full Member
I have zero worries that the team thinks the sky is falling or that they will let this #7 ranking negatively impact their play.
Eight
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TCU is #1 on the ESPN CFP Anger List:
Anger Index
It's outrage season in college football, and with Tuesday's release of the first 2022 CFP rankings, there's plenty of anger to go around.
Here's Week 10's College Football Playoff Anger Index.
1. TCU (8-0), ranked seventh: Yes, we know the argument. TCU just hasn't been dominant. It's a case that might hold water if dominance was the criteria for the teams just ahead of Horned Frogs.
TCU has had eight second-half drives this season when trailing. That's actually one fewer than No. 4 Clemson.
TCU has three wins by seven points or less, but the team one spot ahead -- Alabama -- has two and a loss.
TCU hasn't proved enough to overcome some of the obvious drawbacks. But hey, Michigan's seven-point win over Maryland -- the Wolverines' second-best opponent this year -- must've really impressed the committee.
The folks in the committee room claim to care only about résumé -- who have you beaten? -- and don't look ahead or consider past seasons. So how then to make heads or tails of TCU's No. 7 placement?
The Horned Frogs have four wins over teams that were ranked. That's the same as Michigan, Georgia and Alabama combined.
The Horned Frogs have four road wins, double the tally for Ohio State, Georgia, Michigan or Alabama.
The Horned Frogs have run 20 offensive plays in the fourth quarter when trailing. That's just three more than Georgia, and they all came against better opposition than Missouri.
The Horned Frogs are No. 3 in ESPN's strength of record, which measures the odds an average top-25 team would have the same record vs. the same schedule. That's ahead of No. 5 Georgia, No. 6 Alabama and No. 7 Michigan.
But there's a bigger debate here on how schedule difficulty should be considered. Yes, Tennessee and Georgia have marquee wins, and there's a reasonable chance TCU would've lost had it played Oregon or Alabama. But is it tougher to play a schedule that includes one incredibly difficult opponent and a bunch of cupcakes (as Georgia has) or to go a full month playing decent (if not elite) top-25 teams (as TCU has)?
The argument for TCU is strong -- stronger too because the committee seemed to indicate a belief in the quality of the Big 12 with the rest of its rankings. (Kansas State and Texas fared better in the CFP ranking than in the polls.) So it's unfortunate that confidence wasn't extended to the Horned Frogs. Because while the opening rankings don't often mean much in the big picture, they do set the stage. And as it stands, TCU has done as much as anyone save Tennessee, and it's still not good enough to eclipse even a one-loss Alabama.
For Tennessee, Georgia, Michigan, Alabama and Ohio State, the season will determine who ends up in the top four -- starting with this week's games for those SEC schools. But for TCU, these rankings suggest it's not just about winning. The Horned Frogs need to win bigger, win better and still hope the teams ranked higher will falter enough to convince the committee to change its perceptions.
College Football Playoff rankings: What we learned, a hypothetical 12-team field and the Anger Index
Tennessee tops the first of six rankings that will determine the participants of this year's College Football Playoff. Here's what we learned, who should be upset, our early game predictions and a 12-team preview.
so how much clearer does it need to be made for some here that what you saw and heard last night was chum thrown in the water in an attempt to create angst and debate. he we have the espn "anger index"
there are novellas and steve austin's return to wrestling that were better scripted than this [ Finebaum ]
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