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DMN: Patterson updates QB competition, says Frogs 'in better position than we were a year ago'

netty2424

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Joy? Reading comprehension issues there. I’d love for JR to be 100%. It’s disappointing he isn’t, but it is frustrating that I’ve been stating this only for you to constantly argue with me. I’ve been stating as a means to divert attention to how our QB situation will be fine without this inexperienced QB many are hanging our season on.

Baldwin has a good chance of being approved, but coaches aren’t going to publicly jinx themselves. If for some crazy reason Baldwin isn’t given the waiver, Delton and Collins will be ready.
I hear you man. But to me, the multiple “I told y’all” posts comes across as looking like you have a bone to pick with him, while trying to make yourself look like an insider. Yet you follow it up with Baldwin waiver talk.

According to JC, Baldwin hasn’t taken a snap at TCU in practice and won’t through spring. He’s so far from being “the guy,” it makes JR’s rehab look ahead of schedule.

And not to compare Jaylon Smith to JR as everyone’s injuries are different, but he played significant minutes as a LB wearing a brace to hold his foot in place.

Maybe JR becomes a pro-style QB with hopes that his mobility improves(if true)with some help from Cumbie.
 

Billy Clyde

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Maybe JR becomes a pro-style QB with hopes that his mobility improves(if true)with some help from Cumbie.

Great point. I get frustrated sometimes with the idea that Gary would rather have a competent RPO guy at qb than a great passer. And I think about the ridiculous run of non-running qbs at Tech, and wonder why we don't prioritize passing accuracy and quick reads/release over pretty much anything else.
 

tcumaniac

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Joy? Reading comprehension issues there. I’d love for JR to be 100%. It’s disappointing he isn’t, but it is frustrating that I’ve been stating this only for you to constantly argue with me. I’ve been stating as a means to divert attention to how our QB situation will be fine without this inexperienced QB many are hanging our season on.

Baldwin has a good chance of being approved, but coaches aren’t going to publicly jinx themselves. If for some crazy reason Baldwin isn’t given the waiver, Delton and Collins will be ready.
Even if Baldwin is approved, he's a non factor. He's recovering from surgery and won't be going through fall camp.

Delton, Collins, and Duggan are our 3 guys. Unfortunately, I will be writing off JR until I hear otherwise.
 

Eight

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i know people enjoy trying to read the "tea leaves" on the quarterback or other positions, but until we get close to the ark-pb game we just don't know nor will know who is truly healthy, who is truly ready, who is truly doing what sonny and gary want from the quarterback position
 

jake102

Active Member
Great point. I get frustrated sometimes with the idea that Gary would rather have a competent RPO guy at qb than a great passer. And I think about the ridiculous run of non-running qbs at Tech, and wonder why we don't prioritize passing accuracy and quick reads/release over pretty much anything else.

I'm with you on this.
 

netty2424

Full Member
Great point. I get frustrated sometimes with the idea that Gary would rather have a competent RPO guy at qb than a great passer. And I think about the ridiculous run of non-running qbs at Tech, and wonder why we don't prioritize passing accuracy and quick reads/release over pretty much anything else.
I’m with you. It’s been publicly noted how great his arm is. Let the kid dice up some secondaries. Got no problem with that at all.
 

jeremy

Member
I hear you man. But to me, the multiple “I told y’all” posts comes across as looking like you have a bone to pick with him, while trying to make yourself look like an insider. Yet you follow it up with Baldwin waiver talk.

According to JC, Baldwin hasn’t taken a snap at TCU in practice and won’t through spring. He’s so far from being “the guy,” it makes JR’s rehab look ahead of schedule.

And not to compare Jaylon Smith to JR as everyone’s injuries are different, but he played significant minutes as a LB wearing a brace to hold his foot in place.

Maybe JR becomes a pro-style QB with hopes that his mobility improves(if true)with some help from Cumbie.

Didn't say spring...fall camp. Baldwin will be available in September but he will not be active the four weeks leading up to the Arkansas PB game.
 

y2kFrog

Active Member
Even if Baldwin is approved, he's a non factor. He's recovering from surgery and won't be going through fall camp.

Delton, Collins, and Duggan are our 3 guys. Unfortunately, I will be writing off JR until I hear otherwise.

JR literally played more in the meaningless spring game then any of the guys you listed.
 

netty2424

Full Member
Didn't say spring...fall camp. Baldwin will be available in September but he will not be active the four weeks leading up to the Arkansas PB game.
Gotcha. So week two, Baldwin is “active.”

To be clear, does active mean practicing full speed? Or just cleared to start getting up to speed.
 

Fortress Frog

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Jaylen Smith with Cowboys is healthy. It took 2+ years but he is a terror once again at LB.

And if we’re comparing timelines, Jaylon Smith was still wearing the special boot on his leg at this exact point in his recovery that JR is at right now. He still had mobility issues and wasn’t fully recovered until he came back the next season. That could happen with JR as well, so even if he isn’t 100% this year it doesn’t mean he won’t eventually be. Time will tell.

Like others have said, as long as he has enough mobility to move around in the pocket he has the ability to be a vertical passing QB.
 

Mean Purple

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Folks should relax about Collins. Reality of reps is reality. And it goes back to both spring and fall camp. Doubt he got the same reps as SR coming into last season. Starter is always gonna get the reps ...which is how time usually comes about. And there comes a comfort level. If Collins starts, he'll be good to go.
 

Froggish

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I think Collins is a better bet given the health and inexperience of the rest of the pack. Again, I'm talking Aug. 31. Camp starts pretty soon. Collins played well vs. OU before he got hurt. Not worried.

He looked good for about 10 minutes in that game...
 

Mean Purple

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Folks should relax about Collins. Reality of reps is reality. And it goes back to both spring and fall camp. Doubt he got the same reps as SR coming into last season. Starter is always gonna get the reps ...which is how time usually comes about. And there comes a comfort level. If Collins starts, he'll be good to go.
Of course, this all depends on how he has healed.
 

Froggish

Active Member
Maybe JR becomes a pro-style QB with hopes that his mobility improves(if true)with some help from Cumbie.

GP has stated on multiple occasions that JR has by far the best arm in the clubhouse and I’m pretty sure he’s including Collins in that. I just think it’s hard to readjust an entire offense to a pro-style scheme after wearing Sonny out about changing away from the spread. Mobile QBs have given GP a pretty fair amount of issues over the years and that probably plays a role. The goal of fall is to get to two QBs and let the best one win. I anticipate that going all the way up until the Purdue game. All the QBs are going to get a chance to win the job.
 
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