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Travis Trucks
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Ron Swanson said:
This is probably the crux of it
My sophomore year one of my roommates was a football player who had trouble with frats... let's call him "Sam"(that wasnt his real name, but just to conceal identity)
One night Sam was in the student parking lot and a big F250 truck full of drunk frat guys backed into Sam's car and completely smashed the rear of Sam's car like a soda can. Of course the frat guys drive off, but Sam was able to get the plate number, called the cops, the frat guys were arrested in the parking lot by the bookstore. Of course the frat guys and the entire frat were pissed at Sam and harrassed him non stop over it the next few weeks for snitching.
One night they were harrassing Sam over social media so Sam called them cowards and told one of them to come to our dorm to say it to his face. Of course instead of that one guy coming, about a dozen of them showed up. 12 on 1, yeah that's a fair fight. Sam just took the high road and called the RA who got campus police to escort them out.
Things settled down for a while but a few months later Sam got invited by a sorority girl to their date party mixer downtown that was co-hosted by the sorority and another frat. The frat that hosted it wasn't the same one who had the problem with Sam, but they still kicked him out of the party, because the girl who took Sam to the party was being pursued by one of the frat guys in the frat who was co-hosting the party and he had sour grapes. Of course the sorority sided with the frat, and therefore the Sorority Girl who invited Sam fell in line too, of course you always have to side with your frat/sorority or else. Basically all threw Sam under the bus. He had to call me to give him a ride home since they wouldn't let him take the bus back to campus. He was really bitter about that but again took the high road.
Things finally came to a point at a baseball game in the Spring. One of the frat guys from the truck incident and his dad began to jaw at Sam on the sidewalk area behind the stadium 3rd base line. Sam decided to stick up for himself and began to jaw back with the dad and frat guy telling him to leave him alone. The dad grabbed Sam by the collar to get in his face and Sam delivered a punch right into the dad's cheek. Instead of fighting back the Dad called one of the assistant AD's to eject Sam from the premises. Apparently this dad was a big donor and said he has so much influence he just needed to make one phone call to get Sam kicked out of TCU. Sam never got kicked out but it did worry him for a while. But the police weren't called because technically the Dad was the aggressor. Those frat guys never messed with Sam again as far as I was concerned.
Long story short while taking the high road is usually the best route to go sometimes a good punch to the face is the best way to put an end to shenanigans for good. Because sometimes fighting back is the right message to send to tell people to knock it off.
Not all frats are bad. Not all frat guys are bad. There are good frats and bad frats. Within frats, good or bad, there are good guys and bad guys. Judge the individual and not the group. My room mates my junior/senior year were frat guys and they were all good people.
It's just a bunch of sexually charged 18-22 year old guys who are in competition for the women on campus. That's the crux of it. The frat guys think they run the campus and are the most alpha men on campus, and think that by not letting athletes into their party they are showing themselves as "above" the athletes and more important, in an attempt to impress the females of campus. Hence why the football guys took over Old Rips when I was a student - it was their place they could go and party without worrying whether or not they were welcome.
The district attorney had absolutely no idea this case existed or that there had been an arrest for it until about 6:40 last night. The DA's office has not yet filed the case although I expect it to be filed in the next three or four days. This is not the place for a defense of Sharen Wilson but I can tell you that as a Judge there was no one in the courthouse quicker to tell an ADA his case was a waste of the court's time. She has instituted expanded diversion programs for young offenders and is especially sensitive to prosecutions that have a disparate impact on minorities. And she could not care less about college sports, at Tech or anywhere else. Let this case play out before you stake out a position.smellslikeroses said:
satis1103
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Hahaha, glad you included "no warrants". Apropos of nothing, I would like to state that issuing warrants and taking to jail people with otherwise completely clean records over traffic tickets that were not paid is ludicrous. I would love to propose a state constitution amendment that says nobody can be arrested for a class C traffic offense, whether the ticket was properly disposed of or not.BABYFACE said:
This keeps poor people poorer and costs some blue collar honest people their jobs when they are arrested months after they ran a stop sign. And don't tell me they should just pay it. A. that's a conviction reported, and B. some have the choice of a traffic fine or rent/bills/kids' needs.
YA
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I knew the victim as he pulled a gun on me in the Greek parking lot on a Thursday night around 2:30 in the morning. All over a parking spot. He was also on his third school after getting kicked out of two others. I filed a police report and the TCU and fwpd went into the fraternity house he was staying in. He didn't get kicked out because his family had lots of money. He later picked on the wrong guys and got his ass kicked because he was a pos who could not keep his mouth shut no matter the situation.PO Frog said:
So what's your solution for dealing with people who have the money to own and maintain a vehicle, but act like a drivers license, insurance, registration, etc., are a Lifestyle Choice? And before you respond, let's be real here- Nobody is going to jail over a single stop sign ticket.satis1103 said:
satis1103
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Fact - my firm has bonded and defended SEVERAL people who received one single traffic ticket and just let it slide too long. Dead solid fact. The other day I confirmed a warrant on a 70+ year old lady who had one FW traffic traffic ticket in 15 years.OICU812 said:
My solution would go along these lines - a class B that is something like "Traffic Scofflaw". Someone who has multiple warrants, and can be proven they are not trying. Other than that, just have debt collectors run after people. Sometimes to be fair in my opinion we need to make compromises. I'd rather someone go with unpaid speeding tickets than to have them removed from society via arrest. Other things like causing accidents sans insurance etc. already have their own discouraging factors.
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A guy who pulls a gun over a parking space is brain damaged.PO Frog said:
illini_frog
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I've been hesitant to throw this out there, but I will anyway.
I met Mike a few times at parties and around campus while still in college 2 years ago. Never talked to him a ton but had small talk a few times, and he seemed like a genuinely good guy. Now, genuinely good guys can do stupid things, including myself, but I have trouble believing he would pull some criminal act without being thoroughly provoked.
I met Mike a few times at parties and around campus while still in college 2 years ago. Never talked to him a ton but had small talk a few times, and he seemed like a genuinely good guy. Now, genuinely good guys can do stupid things, including myself, but I have trouble believing he would pull some criminal act without being thoroughly provoked.
