CBS Sports: Art Briles: Lack of 'brand name' kept Baylor, TCU out of playoff

[TopFrog]

CBS Sports: Art Briles: Lack of 'brand name' kept Baylor, TCU out of playoff
 

By Jerry Hinnen | College Football Writer
 

Even before the inaugural College Football Playoff field excluded his Baylor Bears in favor of Ohio State, Art Briles was feeling ornery about the selection process. And perhaps not surprisingly, the intervening months haven't made him any less ornery.
 
Briles continued his ongoing complaint against the 2014 CFP Selection Committee during a visit to ESPN on Wednesday, saying -- in his typically colorful fashion -- that his Bears' lack of traditional cachet hurt them with the selectors:
 

Brett McMurphy ✔ @McMurphyESPN

Art Briles: “If Baylor or TCU had an older brand name, one of us would have got in the @CFBPlayoff”
 
10:20 AM - 22 Jul 2015
 


 

 
 
Though obviously no committee member will ever confirm he gave Ohio State the benefit of the doubt just for being Ohio State, Briles isn't wrong that it's human nature to balk at taking the Bears or Horned Frogs over a blue-blood like the Buckeyes.
 
But there's zero evidence that was the deciding factor. If we're applying Occam's Razor to the committee's thinking, is it more likely that even after weeks of poring over team resumes and game film, the final decision came down to "brand names" or, you know, this ...




 
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25247567/art-briles-lack-of-brand-name-kept-baylor-tcu-out-of-playoff
 

Art Briles says 'brand name' kept Baylor, TCU out of College Football ...
 
AL.com-17 hours ago
Big 12 Commissioner Bob Bowlsby has said it's apparent after Big 12 co-champions TCU and Baylor were left out last year that the lack of a conference ...

 

[TopFrog]

I agree. Ohio State got in based on its name and what they saw as bigger national appeal.

 

[Fred Garvin]

For God sakes, Art.  At some point don't you have to let this go and move on?  What a Richard.

 

[TopFrog]

For God sakes, Art.  At some point don't you have to let this go and move on?  What a Richard.

He was likely answering a question. Patterson also addressed it, though in a different way.

 

[cdsfrog]

Wisconsin intentionally tanking did TCU/Baylor in.
 
OSU barely beats them and they never get in. In the end the 4 teams that got in weren't going to get left out. Sucks for TCU but if we have a 21 point lead with 11 min left this year we will hold it.

 

[McFroggin]

Truth

 

[ftwfrog]

 

Art Briles says 'brand name' kept Baylor, TCU out of College Football ...
 
Complains about brand name keeping his team out of playoff.

Never shuts the darn up about #yungbrand.

Art Briles ladies and gentlemen.

 

[Frogs1983]

For once I have to agree with Briles. This is what happens when you turn selection criteria over to humans from computers. Most of the selection committee members are older people stuck in a time warp when Nebraska,OU, UT,Michigan, OSU,USC, etc... were always on top or near the top of College Football.

 

[Limp Lizard]

Lack of brand name made the Bears blow two consecutive New Year's bowls?
 
Actually it was more than tOSU's brand name.  The criterion set forth by the committee.  CDC and GP met the night before the final poll and saw that TCU would be left out.  Obviously, tOSU belonged, but FlaState definitely did not.  It was FlaState that really kept us out:  7 wins by less than a TD including one overtime win.  One lucky bounce by one of 7 teams and we were in.
 
It takes time to get a brand name, especially when you were in lesser-regarded conferences or had been the worst of the worst for many years in a good conference.  Briles has some point, but not much.  Five good years in a row does not make you a name team.  14 losing years preceded that.  And Briles is 2-3 now that he goes to bowls.

 

[Frogs1983]

Bottom line is if it would have been OU or Texas sitting 3rd and then won their last game by 40 plus points, they would not have been 6th afterward.

 

[HToady]

We need to give free TCU caps and t shirts to hollywood celebrities and have the photographed by TMZ wearing them. If we can jus get hollywood on the bandwagon, we will have our brand recognition.

 

[FrogSwagSurfin]

We need to give free TCU caps and t shirts to hollywood celebrities and have the photographed by TMZ wearing them. If we can jus get hollywood on the bandwagon, we will have our brand recognition.

Im more concerned with courting the college football mouthpieces. The older generation still in the media is our focus.

What normal college football enthusiast cares if Bradley Cooper is wearing a TCU or FSU hat?

 

[Boomhauer]

Bottom line is if it would have been OU or Texas sitting 3rd and then won their last game by 40 plus points, they would not have been 6th afterward.

 
This.  Can you imagine the outcry if that happened to Texas and OU instead of TCU/Baylor? 

 

[cheese83]

I'm just ready for the conference networks to blow up once tv providers switch to a la carte & reduce the packages. Knock the big 10 off their high horse.

 

[froglash88]

Can't stand Baylor or Briles, but he is correct on this one.

Let's just keep voting until the results come out the way Delaney and the Bluebloods want them. This committee is set up to take care of the Bluebloods.

Ohio State didn't deserve to get in, period.

 

[Zen Moon]

An undefeated, defending, National Champion, FSU, and OSU crushing Badger, are the two things that kept us out. Art's tears are misguided.

 

[Frog-in-law1995]

CBS Sports: Art Briles: Lack of 'brand name' kept Baylor, TCU out of playoff
 

By Jerry Hinnen | College Football Writer
 

Even before the inaugural College Football Playoff field excluded his Baylor Bears in favor of Ohio State, Art Briles was feeling ornery about the selection process. And perhaps not surprisingly, the intervening months haven't made him any less ornery.
 
Briles continued his ongoing complaint against the 2014 CFP Selection Committee during a visit to ESPN on Wednesday, saying -- in his typically colorful fashion -- that his Bears' lack of traditional cachet hurt them with the selectors:
 

 
 
Though obviously no committee member will ever confirm he gave Ohio State the benefit of the doubt just for being Ohio State, Briles isn't wrong that it's human nature to balk at taking the Bears or Horned Frogs over a blue-blood like the Buckeyes.
 
But there's zero evidence that was the deciding factor. If we're applying Occam's Razor to the committee's thinking, is it more likely that even after weeks of poring over team resumes and game film, the final decision came down to "brand names" or, you know, this ...
 
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25247567/art-briles-lack-of-brand-name-kept-baylor-tcu-out-of-playoff
 

Art Briles says 'brand name' kept Baylor, TCU out of College Football ...
 
AL.com-17 hours ago
Big 12 Commissioner Bob Bowlsby has said it's apparent after Big 12 co-champions TCU and Baylor were left out last year that the lack of a conference ...

I'd like to see someone research the number of references to Occam's razor before and after 1997. Every time I see it, I get the sense the writer wants us to believe he's recalling the concept from 12th grade physics class but in reality he was just flipping channels and caught the last 30 minutes of Contact with Jodi Foster and James Woods on TBS over the weekend. Everybody seems to apply the same close-but-not-quite-correct definition used in the movie.

 

[HToady]

What normal college football enthusiast cares if Bradley Cooper is wearing a TCU or FSU hat?

I was thinking more of Sophia Vegara....

 

[BABYFACE]

Bottom line is if it would have been OU or Texas sitting 3rd and then won their last game by 40 plus points, they would not have been 6th afterward.

That is the rub. How does a team fall from 3 to 6 after blowing out a conference opponent?

The committee moving TCU up to 3 from 4 the previous week, seemed to be a move that they were insulating TCU and that the Frogs were solidly in the top 4. It would have been easier to slide TCU out of the playoff if they committee had left TCU at the 4th spot instead of moving them up to the 3rd the week before the final playoff rankings. This is what is so puzzling to me.

 

[helcap]

It's more than team brand, it is also conference brand. Saw some talking heads on ESPN yesterday discussing this season's CFP. And without naming teams or possible records, all agreed that the SEC, Big 10 and PAC12 champs were in, and the Big 12 champ would be competing with the ACC champ for the fourth spot.