South of the Border Frog
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A year's more experience but playing like it!
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A year's more experience but playing like it!
sous vide
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It would make me angry and frustrated, probably, but when you come right down to it, but previous years are just that. They don't count except for initial placement and BSU received a high placement "reward" in full measure (as did we in a slightly lesser way). That's enough of a reward for good previous years if we're going to have such a silly system.
ShreveFrog
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I've been sayin'.
Ravenous Ute
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Utah finally got some love from their trouncing of Iowa State after Iowa State beat Texas last weekend. Seeing how SDSU almost beat Missouri, Iowa State could beat them at home as well. I know transitive football doesn't work but there is a slim chance Iowa State could ride this high and win out with home games vs Kansas, Nebraska (who lost to Texas @home) & Missouri and a road game vs Colorado. If they do then they win the Big XII North and will be in the CCG. Win or lose that garnishes more respect for Utah and a higher SOS for TCU. So root for Iowa State the rest of the way. Also pulling for SMU, Baylor, Pittsburgh and ND except their game vs Utah. Oregon State is a toss up as they help Boise and definitely rooting against Virginia Tech.
Pulling for LSU to beat 'Bama and 'Bama to win the Iron Bowl vs Auburn. Though a one loss Auburn might still make the BCS NCG, I see that as more likely than Oregon losing @USC.
HoustonHornedFrog
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BSU plays LaTech this week on tuesday so it won't help them much. Hopefully the tuesday game hurts them with the human polls because they have forgotten that by next Sunday.
Extremely frustrated. But frankly I don't care about BSU, I care about TCU.
Of course BSU would say their D is much better this year and their offense has more experience and since they are currently ranked no. 1 in total D, their improvement on D is easier to quantify then ours.
Agreed 100%. Our only worry right now is, and should be, to keep winning. Utah is a real threat especially in SLC.
We also would like the SEC East to continue to get beat up. It is very possible that the SEC East Champion will be a 3 or 4 loss team. That could mean that a one loss SEC West champion doesn't get the same kind of boost from the SEC championship game that they have in the last couple of years.
Nick Danger
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If we beat UNLV and Utah, do you think we'll see some Rose Bowl representatives at the last home game? 
dweller
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Any one else catch the "this isn't the same VT team that Boise Beat!". :blink:
It must be listed on the BCS Media card.
Has non-BCS team played anyone good? If no, say, "I can't put them high because they don't play anyone."
If yes --> Was anyone injured on the BCS team? If yes, say, "If star player X was available, this game wouldn't have been close."
If no, say, "The BCS team has gotten a lot better. This is not the same team that was beat previously."
It reminds me of Craig James saying about Boise/Oregon last year, "9 times out of 10, Oregon would beat Boise."
The college football season is 12 games long and they're now resorting to saying Boise and Utah didn't play the BCS teams at the right time of the year. Unbelievable.
JogginFrog
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They say that about VaTech because of the loss to James Madison. You could spin it as "Virginia Tech wasn't playing well to start the year, but they've really improved"...or you could say, "Virginia Tech really let Boise beat them twice -- after leaving it all on the field in Week 1, they had nothing left in the tank for the next week's game."
An easy choice for the AQ-at-all-costs group.
An easy choice for the AQ-at-all-costs group.
As a die-hard Bronco fan, I certainly hope TCU doesn't pass my Broncos. I think it will be a close finish....so many things need to play out to see. However, I certainly understand your frustration. Both fan bases are going through the same emotional roller-coaster. Like last year, Boise and TCU may be the two best teams in College Football. It will be a shame for one of us to be left out of the BCS National Championship game, but in turn, if both of us get in, will the winner really get its rightfull due?
As long as TCU stays put in the Mountain West, this will be the last time either one of us will be screwed out of the top "Non-BCS" spot. We will, from here on out, settle it on the feld of play. And, I might add, by virtue of us being in the same conference, our conference essentailly becomes an AQ every year whether the BCS likes it or not. If TCU goes to the Big East, the competition will be crud (the Mountain West is ranked two steps UP from the Big East now) and thus even an undefeated season again will be degraded with "who did they play...the Big East is weak" argument.
Keep winning and let the chips fall where they may. If TCU passes my Broncos and you get into the MNC game, beat their BCS butts. I hope if we get the chance, all of the TCU nation will get behind us to do the same. If we BOTh get in......may the best team win!
See you next year!
GO BRONCOS!
As long as TCU stays put in the Mountain West, this will be the last time either one of us will be screwed out of the top "Non-BCS" spot. We will, from here on out, settle it on the feld of play. And, I might add, by virtue of us being in the same conference, our conference essentailly becomes an AQ every year whether the BCS likes it or not. If TCU goes to the Big East, the competition will be crud (the Mountain West is ranked two steps UP from the Big East now) and thus even an undefeated season again will be degraded with "who did they play...the Big East is weak" argument.
Keep winning and let the chips fall where they may. If TCU passes my Broncos and you get into the MNC game, beat their BCS butts. I hope if we get the chance, all of the TCU nation will get behind us to do the same. If we BOTh get in......may the best team win!
See you next year!
GO BRONCOS!
stevenewilson
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Auburn will lose to Alabama. They can not play defense.
TCU will jump Boise with a win over Utah.
TCU and Oregon in the NCG!
BigEasyFrog
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Not sure if this was the reference you were talking about, but I watched briefly immediately after the Missouri-OU game (I believe it was when they were interviewing the Missouri QB, he was still in pads), and while I don't pay too much attention or get overly worked up on what analysts say, I think it was Kirk that said that for teams like us and Boise State and Utah at present, you got to ditch the AQ vs. non-AQ stuff. These teams can compete with anybody and beat them more often than not he said more/less, regardless of "schedule strength". I wanted to jump through my TV and give him a big hug and high-five. It was beautiful what we said.
This makes no sense to me. Auburn jumped us but we still picked up votes on Boise. I don't understand what difference it makes (relative to our deficit to Boise in the BCS formula) if a team jumps us in the human polls?
Unfortunately, it doesn't become a de facto AQ. We get less $$$. The competition will be crud as you say, but we would hear the same argument in the MWC. So we might as well take the cash.
BYU made their decision to go independent based on money too. I can tell you from experience....playing in a "crap" conference stinks. No amount of money is worth it. It's hard to get excited week in and week out when you play teams you beat by 40-plus and then listen to all the "experts" run your team down because they don't play anyone.
If the MWC can somehow stay together and have patience, I believe it will get AQ even without Utah and BYU. If TCU leaves, it's over.
GO BRONCOS
BYU made their decision based on the hope of more money. The Big East would be guaranteed, and the perception is that its a better conference. I don't hear the pundits running down WVU, Pitt and Cincy like they do TCU and BSU. I hate to break it to you, but it was over when Utah left.
As far as pundits running down the Big East...remember last year when Cincy was unbeaten...so were you (a non-AQ team)...if Texas misses the field goal, YOU would have gone to the MNC BEFORE an undefeated AQ team. The reason no one talks the big East down is there isn't anyone ranked in the entire conference to talk about.
I understand the frustration and you may be right about it being over when Utah left, but I still hope TCU stays the course.
GO BRONCOS!
Boomhauer
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If a team jumps you in the polls it likely means you are losing votes (although you can gain points on Boise but drop in the rankings). If we are losing votes then we won't gain any ground on Boise unless they lose votes as well. So unless MSU and Mizzou jump Boise as well, we would likely lose ground.
Broncotommy
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Boise State's Conference affiliation really works against them sometimes. But, if we get jumped by the Frogs, it couldn't come from a better bunch of people. Good luck !
