It’s pretty cool to be here at the end of November, waiting to play in the CCG and discussing playoff scenarios.
In the NFL, the first tiebreaking procedure is head-to-head. Why not in the NCAAs?Right. And Tennessee lost by a million to South Carolina. And Oregon is ahead of Oregon State in the Pac 12 standings....same division. Had Oregon State played at Georgia instead of at home against Boise State, they'd be 8-4. So I'm fine with it. Valid point I guess on LSU but let's see where the committee puts them.
You realize Baylor beat us in 2014, right? Same record. Nobody had a problem with us being ranked ahead of them for weeks. So it was Baylor that really got screwed. Ok, got it.
What is the best way to know that one team is better than another?So what. That’s one game. Not at a neutral site. It’s a 12-game schedule, gotta consider everything. The only reason Oregon State is 9-3 instead of 8-4 is because they didn’t have Georgia on their schedule.
unimportant, but KSU all the way down at 13 seems wrongAs expected same top 4 in AP.
Georgia, Michigan, TCU and Ohio State were the top four in the final Associated Press college football poll of the regular season.apnews.com
Lol, I don’t know, I’d have to look at who they’ve played and the scores, but I’m not doing that.What is the best way to know that one team is better than another?
ULM and Texas State were both 4-8...how would you rank them?
It's a good question, and humorous to see the roles so completely reversed. Yes, I would expect to see us move ahead of OSU in that circumstance, and I would howl if TCU didn't.Outright conference championship, 12-1 record vs 11-1 record and playing a tougher SOS is not "shamelessly" applying whatever formula they want. Those are actually very valid differences in resumes. Now, if this year we lose 28-20 and they say make something up like, well, blah blah blah, then yes, you'd have a valid point.
Imagine if Ohio State was sitting there at 11-1 and ranked #3 (and had not beaten a top 10 team) and idle this Saturday and we were 11-1 and then go out and beat Kansas State 59-0 to go 12-1 and claim a Big 12 championship. What would you be saying if they didn't move us ahead of OSU in that circumstance?
In the NFL, the first tiebreaking procedure is head-to-head. Why not in the NCAAs?
It would be weird if Green Bay went to the playoffs over Minnesota because they beat the Bears by more points...
Fairly certain no team has ever won a Natty since CFP began that started the season unranked. Also curious if any team has made the playoff that started unranked.
Great. What is the best metric to determine which team is better than another? I am going on a limb here and saying head-to-head. That doesn't mean it is the end all be all, but it should be considered first. If you want to rank Bama over Ten because Bama beat Texas and Ten beat Pitt, by all means, but there are three teams that lost to teams head-to-head and have identical records and all three are ranked above. It cannot be that all three have better wins against a MAC school...the conferences decide their tie breakers not the ncaa
as far as the rankings, they are nothing more than discussion fodder beyond the final four