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TCUownstheBig12

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The only way we don't get in is if we lose the rest of our games including the Big 12 tourney game. I just don't see that happening. We are playing well now.......3 wins in a row! And if we did stumble down the stretch, how do they keep a 20-win with 8 Big 12 wins out of the dance? Our RPI would get us in any way.

But, I'd like to see us beat KSU and win a few game in the tourney just to keep the momentum going forward.

100% agree. We are in barring an EPIC collapse.
 

CountryFrog

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If being right on two-thirds of my predictions (and possibly a third) is "embarrassing", then I sign me up. Better rate than 99% of the homers on here.
I think the primary reason that it's embarrassing for you is because you are not only sticking by your shaky opinion, despite the fact that it's looking wrong more and more every minute, but the fact that you're vehemently attacking anyone who would dare question that very shaky opinion. It's actually just funny to me watching you search for any argument that can possibly make your argument look slightly less wrong. so I'm not hating on you. Keep it rolling.

I think our RPI is around 19 right now, though. That's nowhere near the NIT, no matter how you want to form your argument.
 

TCUownstheBig12

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Remember when some guy named DugoutFrog or something used to slight our baseball program incessantly until we went to Omaha 5 times in a decade? You are that for basketball.

Most of the misguided accusations of the KF mob don't bother me but this one does.

I'm slighting our basketball program because, half way through the season, I said we were closer to being an NIT team than a 4-5 seed? How is that slighting our program? How would a dishonest assessment of what I saw be better? Don't we promote honest thought and open dialogue on this board.

I've followed TCU basketball since the Iba days and became a mega-fan when Tubbs took over. If you haven't noticed, the 97-98 TCU basketball team is my favorite sports squad of all-time...I followed that team to tons of away games including Puerto Rico for one the most stacked in-season tournaments in recent NCAA history. I would go as far to say that I would trade the Rose Bowl win in football to have seen that team go to the Final Four.

With the exception of Dougherty (I never liked that guy after talking to him on a few occasions when I was a student), I've supported TCU basketball and every coach with my attendance and money. I want this team to win a national title...but that doesn't mean I have to THINK that they are every year.

You can say that my opinion on how good the team was at that point in time but don't question my devotion to this school and their teams. I'm not going to sit down and take that garbage.
 
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The only way we don't get in is if we lose the rest of our games including the Big 12 tourney game. I just don't see that happening. We are playing well now.......3 wins in a row! And if we did stumble down the stretch, how do they keep a 20-win with 8 Big 12 wins out of the dance? Our RPI would get us in any way.

But, I'd like to see us beat KSU and win a few game in the tourney just to keep the momentum going forward.
I truly hope you’re correct. I just like certainty!
 

Froggy Style

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#3 What facts? The facts won't roll out until Selection Sunday. Right now, it's all up-in-the-air.

#4 My "new opinion"? Check the date/thread when I said that originally...same time frame as when my one post was misinterpreted.

You, my friend, have whiffed on four accusations.

You: I have always thought were 8ish-11 is the lowest at large.(despite evidence to the contrary)
Me: 11 is not the lowest
You: You are wrong, 11 is the lowest
Me: Link to facts
You: Well, despite my absolute statement and calling you wrong, I am right because 11 is the "lowest" 9 of 14 times. (clearly not understanding definition of lowest)
Me: Facts matter
You: more blather distracting from inaccurate statements
 

TCUownstheBig12

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I think the primary reason that it's embarrassing for you is because you are not only sticking by your shaky opinion, despite the fact that it's looking wrong more and more every minute, but the fact that you're vehemently attacking anyone who would dare question that very shaky opinion. It's actually just funny to me watching you search for any argument that can possibly make your argument look slightly less wrong. so I'm not hating on you. Keep it rolling.

I think our RPI is around 19 right now, though. That's nowhere near the NIT, no matter how you want to form your argument.

I said on a recent thread that I'll admit that I was wrong when that big number 5-6-7 flashes next to "TCU" on Selection Sunday. And, this is what you people aren't understanding...I want to be wrong. But I will argue the validity of my prediction until it's not valid. And, to your point, it's looking like I will be wrong.

BUT...on that note, where's the guy that said Hamdy was guaranteed to have a 20-10 game? Once again, I hope that guy is right...he won't be...but I hope he is because I root for Hamdy more than anyone.

Where's the guy that claimed how deep our squad was? All 8 of them.

Are their people out there that actually think this team could beat the 97-98 team anymore? I'm already regretting typing this because points that can't actually be proven, no matter what common sense and the eye test dictate, never end well.
 

TCUownstheBig12

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You: I have always thought were 8ish-11 is the lowest at large.(despite evidence to the contrary)
Me: 11 is not the lowest
You: You are wrong, 11 is the lowest
Me: Link to facts
You: Well, despite my absolute statement and calling you wrong, I am right because 11 is the "lowest" 9 of 14 times. (clearly not understanding definition of lowest)
Me: Facts matter
You: more blather distracting from inaccurate statements

You're "facts" are a Lunardi bracketology post?

You are arguing that, despite an 11 seed being the lowest at-large 9 out of 14 times in the First Four era, that I should use a different number for my argument? I should use a "12" because Joe Lunardi says so. Wow.
 

FrogsMcGee

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Haven't followed closely, but did anyone actually guaranty the 20-10 Hamdy thing, or just state an opinion that he was capable of 20-10 if he got enough minutes?
 

Armadillo

Full Member
Here's my prediction:

We win the next 2 games, then make an epic run to the Big12 championship game but lose. Then we get the dreaded #5 seed. Oh dear god you know how this story ends. PLEASE Little Baby Jesus, not a #5 seed.

Sarcasm, kinda.
 
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TCUownstheBig12

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Haven't followed closely, but did anyone actually guaranty the 20-10 Hamdy thing, or just state an opinion that he was capable of 20-10 if he got enough minutes?

If the word "guarantee" wasn't actually typed, I'll still stand my stance even with it being "he's capable of a 20-10 game". If you play your entire college career and don't do it one single time, I would think that would support, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he's not "capable". 100+ tries (or however many it is) with a 0% success rate is a pretty good sample size.

I wouldn't want the argument to get caught up in semantics.
 

Froggy Style

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You're "facts" are a Lunardi bracketology post?

You are arguing that, despite an 11 seed being the lowest at-large 9 out of 14 times in the First Four era, that I should use a different number for my argument? I should use a "12" because Joe Lunardi says so. Wow.
Lowest: Located at the bottom

If a number is low 64.28% of the time, and 35.72% of the time there are lower numbers, it is should never be cited as the lowest. When someone points out that 11 is not the lowest, you should not say they are wrong and repeat that 11 is the lowest.

I could care less what you use for your argument, but when you're called out as wrong, you shouldn't continue down the same path like a bull in a china shop like you did with your stupid NIT opinion.

Oh and you may want to look into the possessive of the word you.
 

Purp

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Haven't followed closely, but did anyone actually guaranty the 20-10 Hamdy thing, or just state an opinion that he was capable of 20-10 if he got enough minutes?
I've never seen anyone guarantee Hamdy goes 20 and 10. I'm probably the closest to that a month or so ago when I was making the case for the quality of our depth.

We could go 9 deep at the time and, aside from Olden and probably Bane (not enough assists or boards) it wasn't unrealistic that 7 guys could get to 20 and 10 any given night. Hamdy was in that list for me, though he'd only get enough minutes for those numbers if Vlad was in foul trouble.

Curious why you ask. That's resurrecting a debate from the way back machine.
 

Peacefrog

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If being right on two-thirds of my predictions (and possibly a third) is "embarrassing", then I sign me up. Better rate than 99% of the homers on here.
How about your prediction that we would be lucky to make NIT? Or are you pretending that didn't happen?

You are bad at sports. You should find another hobby.
 

Peacefrog

Degenerate
I've never seen anyone guarantee Hamdy goes 20 and 10. I'm probably the closest to that a month or so ago when I was making the case for the quality of our depth.

We could go 9 deep at the time and, aside from Olden and probably Bane (not enough assists or boards) it wasn't unrealistic that 7 guys could get to 20 and 10 any given night. Hamdy was in that list for me, though he'd only get enough minutes for those numbers if Vlad was in foul trouble.

Curious why you ask. That's resurrecting a debate from the way back machine.
The ghost keeps bringing it up to distract from his dumbassery.
 

TCUownstheBig12

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Lowest: Located at the bottom

If a number is low 64.28% of the time, and 35.72% of the time there are lower numbers, it is should never be cited as the lowest. When someone points out that 11 is not the lowest, you should not say they are wrong and repeat that 11 is the lowest.

I could care less what you use for your argument, but when you're called out as wrong, you shouldn't continue down the same path like a bull in a china shop like you did with your stupid NIT opinion.

Oh and you may want to look into the possessive of the word you.

Sorry for the typo on "you're"/"your". When people go there on boards, that typically means they are losing the argument.

Arguing "lowest" vs. "highest" terminology is silly...you could make the case that a 1 seed is lower/higher than an 8 seed. Is #1 a lower ranking than #8? Is it a higher ranking?

My point is that the "most correct" (even though correctness is really an absolute) answer to "In the NCAA tournament, what seed is typically the lowest ranked at-large team?" is 11. I'm sorry for not phrasing that with enough clarity.

So, when I was making my case that we are closer to being an NIT team...I was using 11 as the last at-large team.

Better?
 

TCUownstheBig12

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How about your prediction that we would be lucky to make NIT? Or are you pretending that didn't happen?

You are bad at sports. You should find another hobby.

Not going to keep acknowledging your first point. I think the actual thread proves that out.

I am bad at sports? Hahaha...you don't read KillerFrogs very much do you? I would LOVE to review everyone's "accuracy" and commentary post-by-post.

I'm getting attacked by a person that thought a 12-seed was the more common "lowest ranked" at-large team (wrong), people that believe Ahmed Hamdy could produce a 20-10 game because "he's on our team...yay!" (he's 0 for over 100+), a handful of "it's the refs fault" whiners, etc. etc. I'm not the one that's bad at sports, my friend. I'll proudly stand my 400-500 posts (I know that's not many compared to most on here; and some are about Tim Love, not sports).
 
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