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Through Half of the Season Grades

ticketfrog123

Active Member
Tulane put up 35 against OU. TCU did less with more talent.

2017 was a B+ offense - this one doesn’t click or fire on all cylinders. More sporadic.
 

jake102

Active Member
Duggan - B+ trending up
OL - B this would probably be a B+ or A- if Harris and Lanz could find their way to a football field
WR - B+ trending up. Hopefully we are remembering QJ
RB - A+ trending down if Evans doesn't come back

DT - D they are terrible
DE - C they are bad, especially any play where Mathis and Coleman aren't both on the field.
LB- D- terrible. Although they had their best run defense game against OU. Trending up
CB - B even with injuries. If THT comes back and Daniels ever comes back, it's an A unit.
Safeties - C not good, not horrific.

ST - C running the kickoff back is so dumb

Overall offense A-, overall defense D+, overall team grade of C+
 

Wexahu

Full Member
Tulane put up 35 against OU. TCU did less with more talent.

2017 was a B+ offense - this one doesn’t click or fire on all cylinders. More sporadic.
Tulane averaged 5.1 yards to play and turned it over 3 times.
TCU averaged 7.9 yards per play and turned it over once.

It's cool when your defense can force a couple turnovers and give up 5.7 yards per play (like Tulane's did) and not 9.1 yards per play like ours did.

TCU did more with more talent on the offensive side of the ball. The defense on the other hand.....
 

Wexahu

Full Member
agree, our loss wasn't because of their QB it was because of us.

Yeah, the idea that a kid that was a Heisman candidate before the season and a kid that probably 75% of the programs around the country would want to take in via the transfer portal is suddenly 3+ TDs worse than a true freshman making his first collegiate start seems pretty ridiculous to me.

He was struggling for sure. He wasn't struggling THAT bad.

They probably just would have run the ball for 400+ yards instead of 230 had Ratter played.
 

Pharm Frog

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Tulane put up 35 against OU. TCU did less with more talent.

2017 was a B+ offense - this one doesn’t click or fire on all cylinders. More sporadic.

Just can’t bring yourself to admit it. Must be sad to commit yourself to a position and resort to using irrelevant data to support it. Question: How many of Tulane’s TD scoring drives started on the OU side of the field? Answer = 2. How many turnovers did OU have in that game? Answer = 2. How many turnovers did OU have against the Frogs? Answer = 1. Who forced it? Answer - the TCU offense. Who played OU without their best offensive weapon and two more of its Top 5 limited. Answer = TCU.

If you can’t admit that this TCU offense led by Max Duggan is doing just fine or better than that, you have negative credibility.
 

ticketfrog123

Active Member
Just can’t bring yourself to admit it. Must be sad to commit yourself to a position and resort to using irrelevant data to support it. Question: How many of Tulane’s TD scoring drives started on the OU side of the field? Answer = 2. How many turnovers did OU have in that game? Answer = 2. How many turnovers did OU have against the Frogs? Answer = 1. Who forced it? Answer - the TCU offense. Who played OU without their best offensive weapon and two more of its Top 5 limited. Answer = TCU.

If you can’t admit that this TCU offense led by Max Duggan is doing just fine or better than that, you have negative credibility.

The only positives on this team are Zach and QJ. This team is not fine. Neither the offense or defense are fine. Defense worse obviously
 

Eight

Member
Duggan - B+ trending up
OL - B this would probably be a B+ or A- if Harris and Lanz could find their way to a football field
WR - B+ trending up. Hopefully we are remembering QJ
RB - A+ trending down if Evans doesn't come back

DT - D they are terrible
DE - C they are bad, especially any play where Mathis and Coleman aren't both on the field.
LB- D- terrible. Although they had their best run defense game against OU. Trending up
CB - B even with injuries. If THT comes back and Daniels ever comes back, it's an A unit.
Safeties - C not good, not horrific.

ST - C running the kickoff back is so dumb

Overall offense A-, overall defense D+, overall team grade of C+

would drop the grade for the de's to d as well. mathis has been mia in the pass rush all season outside the first quarter against ou and just bad against the run, horton is often times physically overmatched, colt hasn't done much to draw notice, and coleman has struggled as well against the run

ol actually has gotten better with coleman sliding into the guard position next to coker and and coy and avila flipping back and forth. think the b is a solid grade here, but i actually think coleman needs to stay at guard because the run game has taken a step forward with him in the lineup
 
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Wexahu

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Agreed with comments about the lines. I don’t think we really miss Harris and Lanz, seems like the replacements are doing fine. I have a hard time grading the safeties as a C, I think they’ve been below average. Softest as a group we’ve had in a long, long time.
 

tcufootballjh98

Active Member
Duggan - B+ trending up
OL - B this would probably be a B+ or A- if Harris and Lanz could find their way to a football field
WR - B+ trending up. Hopefully we are remembering QJ
RB - A+ trending down if Evans doesn't come back

DT - D they are terrible
DE - C they are bad, especially any play where Mathis and Coleman aren't both on the field.
LB- D- terrible. Although they had their best run defense game against OU. Trending up
CB - B even with injuries. If THT comes back and Daniels ever comes back, it's an A unit.
Safeties - C not good, not horrific.

ST - C running the kickoff back is so dumb

Overall offense A-, overall defense D+, overall team grade of C+

The safeties and corners have been awful, aside from THT. Ceasar should be benched after last week's showing. TJ Carter still doesn't grasp the 4-2-5, he's had at least 3 mixups in coverage that led to huge plays. Bradford and Clark can't tackle. Van Zandt looks like he's regressed.

The D-tackles may be the biggest disappointment. They've been getting manhandled and driven back which doesn't give the backers much of a chance to fill gaps. Hodge and Winters need to be the starters at LB going forward. The lack of depth at LB is GP's fault.
 

BrewingFrog

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The safeties and corners have been awful, aside from THT. Ceasar should be benched after last week's showing. TJ Carter still doesn't grasp the 4-2-5, he's had at least 3 mixups in coverage that led to huge plays. Bradford and Clark can't tackle. Van Zandt looks like he's regressed.

The D-tackles may be the biggest disappointment. They've been getting manhandled and driven back which doesn't give the backers much of a chance to fill gaps. Hodge and Winters need to be the starters at LB going forward. The lack of depth at LB is GP's fault.
Here is what I do not understand: How are we so thin at these crucial defensive positions? Are we not recruiting anyone to play these positions, and, if so, have none of them worked out?

Did we sacrifice 10 defensive slots to recruit WR candidates?
 

StealthFrog

Full Member
The safeties and corners have been awful, aside from THT. Ceasar should be benched after last week's showing. TJ Carter still doesn't grasp the 4-2-5, he's had at least 3 mixups in coverage that led to huge plays. Bradford and Clark can't tackle. Van Zandt looks like he's regressed.

The D-tackles may be the biggest disappointment. They've been getting manhandled and driven back which doesn't give the backers much of a chance to fill gaps. Hodge and Winters need to be the starters at LB going forward. The lack of depth at LB is GP's fault.
Bradford has at least two whiff tackles per game that could have been potential no gains. And he can’t cover

TJ can hit hard, but his cover skills are the worst we have seen in the GP era.
 

Eight

Member
Here is what I do not understand: How are we so thin at these crucial defensive positions? Are we not recruiting anyone to play these positions, and, if so, have none of them worked out?

Did we sacrifice 10 defensive slots to recruit WR candidates?

on paper the frogs have 10 scholarship safeties and 9 scholarship corners. they also supposedly have 8 scholarship defensive tackles and 7 scholarship linebackers

some are injured, some are a mystery, and who knows what else but there is not a position on the defense where i am confident in the level of play the frogs will get out of two of the players on their roster in the manner they have played this season

by the way, don't look at the roster to see who is leaving and then look at the commitment list to see if the numbers match up
 
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