Reasons to be Optimistic against OSU?
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jack the frog
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Ok St aggy syndrome. They never can put it all together and find a way every year to fold in a big game that keeps them out of the big picture. Alway a chance that this is the game where they choose to El Foldo for the big prize.
SnoSki
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We need OK State to have their annual early stinker against us next weekend. They are an enigma overall to me. They'll probably beat us but then lose to Iowa state or Texas this year.
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Way of the Frog
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Last off season and during Fall camp Patterson referred to the OkState game last year multiple times as an example of the offense not being able to run the ball when a defense basically dared them to do it.
Games like that are why Meachum is in Kansas and why CT is now on the TCU staff. I would not be surprised to see TCU pound the run if the Cowboys play the same style of defense and I would not be surprised to see Hill under center as we saw against Arkansas.
Moose Stuff
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I'd be shocked if shortening the game by running the ball wasn't part of the game plan.
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Way of the Frog
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Agreed and I think the key for this game is the play of both Frog lines versus the OSU fronts.
TX_Krötenechse
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Keys to success:
1. Run the ball successfully and control the clock
2. Force Rudolph to beat us with the deep ball. This will keep their defense on the field and let us score more easily, and they won't make 100% of their deep shots.
3. Win the turnover battle
That's really all we need to do. If we can contain their short pass and run game, then even though they'll score points on the deep ball, their defense will be gassed and sooner or later they'll start missing shots down the field. Getting a turnover or two to halt drives will also help immensely.
To be clear I doubt we can do this. But that's the game plan, I think.
1. Run the ball successfully and control the clock
2. Force Rudolph to beat us with the deep ball. This will keep their defense on the field and let us score more easily, and they won't make 100% of their deep shots.
3. Win the turnover battle
That's really all we need to do. If we can contain their short pass and run game, then even though they'll score points on the deep ball, their defense will be gassed and sooner or later they'll start missing shots down the field. Getting a turnover or two to halt drives will also help immensely.
To be clear I doubt we can do this. But that's the game plan, I think.
Tom Brown
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I meant everything clicking. Yoy live to disagree.
We have to limit their possessions and that comes down to sustained drives and being able to run the ball.
We all know how much improved our running game is.
But sustaining drives means converting third downs. Now go back and look at our third down conversion percentage, it's through the roof. Yes, it's against teams worse than OSU, but that will be huge. If we convert third downs and keep Rudolph of the field we will win. Another aspect here is that you can't lose yardage and take sacks. I think this is why Hill has been asked to work on these real quick passes. If the routes are all under 10 yards, it's tough for the dline to get the sack. We've been practicing for okie state for three weeks now.
Also, for the defense. You drop 5 and ask your front 6 to stop the run. Know why that may actually work this year? We have a freaking two deep for our front 6 this year - something GP hasn't had. We can run fresh bodies out there all game (especially if we sustain drives).
I'm calling my shot: tcu - 31 OSU - 21.
250 on the ground, 250 in the air (on 25+ completions due to short/quick passes).
We all know how much improved our running game is.
But sustaining drives means converting third downs. Now go back and look at our third down conversion percentage, it's through the roof. Yes, it's against teams worse than OSU, but that will be huge. If we convert third downs and keep Rudolph of the field we will win. Another aspect here is that you can't lose yardage and take sacks. I think this is why Hill has been asked to work on these real quick passes. If the routes are all under 10 yards, it's tough for the dline to get the sack. We've been practicing for okie state for three weeks now.
Also, for the defense. You drop 5 and ask your front 6 to stop the run. Know why that may actually work this year? We have a freaking two deep for our front 6 this year - something GP hasn't had. We can run fresh bodies out there all game (especially if we sustain drives).
I'm calling my shot: tcu - 31 OSU - 21.
250 on the ground, 250 in the air (on 25+ completions due to short/quick passes).
wes
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..and win by one point?
SouthTulsaPoke
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Tulsa scored 10 points offensively against our first team defense. They got 7 on special teams and seven against the freshmen and walk ons in the fourth quarter.
USA didn't score against the first team defense. They to got a TD against he reserves in the fourth.
Pitt scored 14 points against the first team defense, using a QB we had limited film on. They scored their other TD on special teams.
In total, the Cowboys' first team defense has given up 24 points in three games, for an 8 points a game average.
In fact, in the first quarter of the three games, OSU scored a combined 59 to zero scoring total. No team has yet posted any score in the first period.
Mean Purple
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BEAT osu
HeidelFrog
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Yes...
netty2424
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Dork
dawg
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Only reasons for optimism I have are Hill didn't throw a pick this week (so maybe that's out of his system after chucking one each in the first two games), the o-line and RBs can control clock, and, well, stranger things have happened in CFB.
Captain Obvious checking in, but it's going to take a near-perfect 60 minutes, and then hope Okie St makes mistakes. Definitely can't lose turnovers 0-4 like in 2015.
Captain Obvious checking in, but it's going to take a near-perfect 60 minutes, and then hope Okie St makes mistakes. Definitely can't lose turnovers 0-4 like in 2015.
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