LSU Game Attendee
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Like Limp has noted, I bet it's mostly recruiting propaganda attempting to minimize the frogs. That, and wishful thinking.
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Purp
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My understanding is that there were different ideas for what was best for the team in terms of offense between Meach and Cumbie, and maybe even Meach and GP too. In some ways it appears that difference filtered down to the team and they never were really well prepared or in sync after that.
Hughes Your Daddy
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Interesting, makes sense to me though. I appreciate the response.
RollToad
Baylor is Trash.
I've heard it was mostly between Meach and GP that caused the rumblings. That's why he got canned.
Moose Stuff
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It won't be recruiting propaganda when pissed off Gary starts jackhammering people in the fall.
geezer
Colonel, USAF (Retired)
IIRC, in his media day remarks, GP threw some shade at Meach for abandoning the game plan and getting cutesy with play calling during games last year. Said he looks forward to having an offensive game plan that's stuck to this season.
Nick Danger
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Additionally, I seem to recall reading that Patterson wanted the game plans to have more planned runs by Hill or some such!
toadallytexan
ToadallyTexan
In my top 3 wishes for 2017, were a kicker worthy of a D-1 team, an aggressive GP defense, and quality QB play. Coach P said Hill had his best practice ever. If this news keeps up, I'm going to be one happy camper -- like a bettor who won the trifecta.
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McFroggin
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We've had a quality QB. Just haven't had quality WR or O-line.
toadallytexan
ToadallyTexan
Actually, to have what I asked for: "quality QB play" the line and receivers have to do their part, so I kinda fudged by combining three areas into one wish.
Limp Lizard
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Quality guy, I guess. But very, very bad QB play. Same WR's that finished the 2015 season, same OL coach. Only change was QB but suddenly WR and coach suck? You gotta be kidding me. Never had any training in experimental design and evaluation, huh?
ScottPatrick
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In 2015 the top 4 receivers were Doctson, Nixon, Turpin and Listenbee. Only one of those played in 2016 and he had an injury riddled year.
McFroggin
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Poor reading comprehension and didn't watch 2016 football?
I said nothing of coaches.
WR corp without Listenbee and Doctson looked to Slanina and Turpin. Both plagued by injuries were shells of 2015 form. Other expected replacements were disappointments. Hicks led the team in receptions due to check downs. #1 in the nation in dropped passes.
O-line was top 3 in Big 12 with sacks allowed and close to UT which we joke about having an awful O-line.
#1 in dropped passes, nobody could get open, and top 3 in sacks. Despite all that, Hill was top 4 in completion percentage in Big 12.
Limp Lizard
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Only Nixon and Turpin finished the season. Did you see where I said "finished the 2015 season"? Finished. Like the last 3 games where we went 2-1 with a one point loss to OU, a CFP participant:
- OU: Nixon 5-23 yards, Listenbee 4-98; Listenbee, Turpin and Porter had TD catches
- Baylor: Nixon 2-6, Listenbee 1-5; Turpin and Stewart had TD catch each
- Alamo Bowl vs. Oregon: Nixon 9-71, Listenbee 1-(-1); Austin and Porter had one TD catch each
QB's were 61-109-5 for 748 yards and 6 TD. Foster Sawyer one of our 2016 QB, contributed 9-19-3 107 yards and 1 TD. Remove him since he played last year and you have 52-90-2 for 641 yards 5 TD's. 57% 5 TD, 2 ints. TD/int = 2.5. Last year:295-495-14(!), 18 TDs. TD/int = 1.28. Once the only difference between the end of 2015 and all of 2016 was the QB play. Not saying it will not be great this year, just saying that was by far the #1 factor last year. We will know soon enough.
RollToad
Baylor is Trash.
Where is this?
From someone who saw us scrimmage.
H-Town Frog
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Van Zandt is a humble kid that has crazy athleticism and the desire to learn. If things click, he can be something really special.
