No defense in the big 12...

[Frog-in-law1995]

 

[Wexahu]

And Vandy hadn't gained more than 465 yards against any SEC opponent. They gained 573 yards against Baylor.

What is the point that is trying to be made? Vandy isn't a very good team and Baylor beat them in a game where the defense on both sides generally stunk. That's all that can be taken from this game.

 

[PO Frog]

It was Aaron Rogers’ little brother Jordan

He was the QB at Vandy a while back and then won the Bachelorette.

Nobody really "wins" the bachelorette

 

[Dogfrog]

Apparently it is lost on some people that the comments made about Baylor Vandy stats is just a swipe at the constant droning from ESPN and others about the strength of SEC and the B12 no defense propaganda. Anybody analyzing this too deeply has an axe to grind.

 

[Mean Purple]

who cares, they won. They will find recruiting easier with that score than TCU did with it's score.

which is why we are ahead of them in recruiting ...

 

[Mean Purple]

Apparently it is lost on some people that the comments made about Baylor Vandy stats is just a swipe at the constant droning from ESPN and others about the strength of SEC and the B12 no defense propaganda. Anybody analyzing this too deeply has an axe to grind.

There is no ESPN propoganda ... and Ohio State and Bama are the greatest things on earth...

 

[froginmn]

I was torn in this game. I despise Baylor with every quark of my being and wish upon them nothing but ruin. However, seeing a B12 offense light up an secsecsec defense and shut them up was satisfying. Bama, LSU, and Florida have earned the right to scream secsecsec because they've won MNCs in the past 15 years. But its the Vandys, Arkys, Mississippi schools, aggy, etc of that conference, who accomplish nothing yet yap the loudest, coat-tailing off the success of Bama, that annoy me. That the secsecsec handpicked a supposedly inferior B12 opponent for Vandy, only for said B12 opponent to [ hundin] slap them was nice. Not nearly as nice as watching KSU make aggy their [ hundin] a few years ago but still nice.

I'm not ready to call that a [ hundin] slapping

 

[ftwfrog]

who cares, they won. They will find recruiting easier with that score than TCU did with it's score.

This is sarcasm, right?

 

[Frog-in-law1995]

And Vandy hadn't gained more than 465 yards against any SEC opponent. They gained 573 yards against Baylor.

What is the point that is trying to be made? Vandy isn't a very good team and Baylor beat them in a game where the defense on both sides generally stunk. That's all that can be taken from this game.

The point is that people who like to point to Big 12 shootouts as proof that our conference defenses are weak need to recognize that it’s a chicken/egg argument from which not even the mighty SEC is immune.

 

[Peacefrog]

The point is that people who like to point to Big 12 shootouts as proof that our conference defenses are weak need to recognize that it’s a chicken/egg argument from which not even the mighty SEC is immune.

Why bother?

 

[Wexahu]

The point is that people who like to point to Big 12 shootouts as proof that our conference defenses are weak need to recognize that it’s a chicken/egg argument from which not even the mighty SEC is immune.

Ok, but people like to say that the SEC is full of a bunch of crap unimaginative offenses too, which is also a chicken/egg argument. This one game matching up the 5th place B12 team and the 6th place SEC East team didn’t prove a darn thing.

 

[Frog-in-law1995]

Why bother?

Well, sure, there’s that. But then why are you on a college football message board?

 

[Frog-in-law1995]

Ok, but people like to say that the SEC is full of a bunch of crap unimaginative offenses too, which is also a chicken/egg argument. This one game matching up the 5th place B12 team and the 6th place SEC East team didn’t prove a darn thing.

No one game proves anything, sure, but it can suggest. Last night’s game suggests there’s more to it than just “Big 12 defenses are bad.”

 

[Peacefrog]

Well, sure, there’s that. But then why are you on a college football message board?

I really don’t know.

 

[toadallytexan]

Well, sure, there’s that. But then why are you on a college football message board?

No fair! Now you're asking us questions that require thought.

 

[dawg]

I don't know how you can say the SEC handpicked an opponent

Well, except that's exactly what the SEC does for its non-NY6 bowls and the Citrus Bowl. The bowl selects the opposing team, then the SEC office "places" its team.

"POOL OF SIX BOWLS: After the Citrus Bowl selects a team, there will be a pool of six bowls and the Conference, in consultation with the institutions and the bowls, will make the assignments for these six bowl games from all eligible SEC teams."

http://www.secsports.com/article/18165241/bowl-selection-process

In other words, who do we think we can beat?

 

[LisaLT]

It was Aaron Rogers’ little brother Jordan

He was the QB at Vandy a while back and then won the Bachelorette.

he's very metrosexual.

 

[Wexahu]

Well, except that's exactly what the SEC does for its non-NY6 bowls and the Citrus Bowl. The bowl selects the opposing team, then the SEC office "places" its team.

"POOL OF SIX BOWLS: After the Citrus Bowl selects a team, there will be a pool of six bowls and the Conference, in consultation with the institutions and the bowls, will make the assignments for these six bowl games from all eligible SEC teams."

http://www.secsports.com/article/18165241/bowl-selection-process

In other words, who do we think we can beat?

Well, who else should they play? Pretty much any other middle-of-the-pack team from other conferences is going to look like a bad matchup against a middle-of-the-pack SEC team because the SEC is a better, deeper league than any of the others.

Take this afternoon for example, Auburn (5th place in the SECW, T10th place overall in the SEC) is playing Purdue (T2nd in the Big 10E, T4th place overall in the Big 10). Beating them 35-7 with 12:48 in the 2nd Quarter. And last night, a team that finished T5th in the Big 12 was taken to the wire by the team that finished 6th place in the 7-team SEC East, that division that supposedly isn't very good.

 

[Deep Purple]

And Vandy hadn't gained more than 465 yards against any SEC opponent. They gained 573 yards against Baylor.

With no context, that's misleading. Half of Vandy's offensive total were rushing yards (286), and 71% of that yardage (203 yards) came on just three carries by Ke'Shawn Vaughn (68, 69, and 66 yards). Apart from those three Baylor breakdowns resulting in big plays, the Bear D did a respectable job of holding the Vandy offense in check most of the night and their team rushing total was only about 83 yards.

 

[LSU Game Attendee]

Well, who else should they play? Pretty much any other middle-of-the-pack team from other conferences is going to look like a bad matchup against a middle-of-the-pack SEC team because the SEC is a better, deeper league than any of the others.

Take this afternoon for example, Auburn (5th place in the SECW, T10th place overall in the SEC) is playing Purdue (T2nd in the Big 10E, T4th place overall in the Big 10). Beating them 35-7 with 12:48 in the 2nd Quarter. And last night, a team that finished T5th in the Big 12 was taken to the wire by the team that finished 6th place in the 7-team SEC East, that division that supposedly isn't very good.

Do you think any other conference games the system as hard as the SEC?

I’m thoroughly bored with a decade of Disney SEC mythology.