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MLB refuses to overturn Pete Rose's lifetime ban

Horned Toad

Horned Toad

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How do you give a "negative" like? Just say "Boo the cheater" I guess? Frownie face? :mad: 
 
Nothing personal NWLA, Rose was a great player no doubt, but he broke a cardinal rule of baseball. If you play or manage baseball don't gamble on baseball.
 
dawg

dawg

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Negative, sir.  The MLB Rule 21 has been posted in every MLB clubhouse for decades:
 
"Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall
bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which
the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible."
 
Spells out pretty clearly what the penalty is for gambling on the game.  Rose thought he was bigger than baseball and the above rule didn't apply to him. No one is bigger than the game. 
 
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/08/why-pete-rose-still-cant-be-absolved/378866/
 
cdsfrog

cdsfrog

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dawg said:
Negative, sir.  The MLB Rule 21 has been posted in every MLB clubhouse for decades:
 
"Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall
bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which
the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible."
 
Spells out pretty clearly what the penalty is for gambling on the game.  Rose thought he was bigger than baseball and the above rule didn't apply to him. No one is bigger than the game. 
 
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/08/why-pete-rose-still-cant-be-absolved/378866/
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Does MLB address Murder?
 
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tetonfrog

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Good news!
 
Rose was a great player, but he is a rotten person. Gambling on baseball is not OK. He had a spread sheet for all the MLB teams to gamble on plus he gambled on the Reds, too! He deserved his punishment then and still does now.
 
There is no gambling in baseball. Players or coaches who do deserve to be banned. Why should Rose be any different from the Black Sox players who tarnished baseball with their crooked ways?
 
BABYFACE

BABYFACE

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Horned Toad said:
 
Pete Rose wasn't a murderer, so his ban for that is not in question. He was, however, a cheater. For that he was banned for life.
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Question to this: PR bet on baseball and thus why he is banned. I am not aware of PR throwing a game or taking part in throwing a game, so why do you call him a cheater? I would like to know where he cheated?
 
dawg

dawg

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cdsfrog said:
 
Does MLB address Murder?
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It does, actually. The criminal justice systems in Texas  and the other states and DC have statues and penalties on homicide.  Homicide would be a "violation of state or local law," and therefore subject to Article XII, section B (the Conduct Detrimental or Prejudicial clause).
 
"B. Conduct Detrimental or Prejudicial to Baseball.  Players may be disciplined for just cause for conduct that is materially detrimental or materially prejudicial to the best interests of Baseball including, but not limited to, engaging in conduct in violation of federal, state or local law. The Commissioner and a Club shall not discipline a Player for the same act or conduct under this provision. In cases of this type, a Club may only discipline a Player, or take other adverse action against him, when the Commissioner defers the disciplinary decision to the Club."
 
 
 
MLB does very clearly and explicitly spell out the penalty for gambling.  Not sure why Rose (or anyone else) has a problem with his penalty.
 
nwlafrog

nwlafrog

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DeuceBoogieNights said:
Steroid users cheated the game more than rose did but they aren't permanently banned. Hell, they're still allowed to play.
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And the Big Mac is allowed to coach

Edit- TFTBNL beat me to it
 

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