If you wonder if CFB is fixed...

[PurplePutt]

I agree! Clear helmet to helmet contact! Will always be called, and under the rules it should be. Sorry, but the refs called it right. And I certainly have no skin in that game. Didn't matter to me.

BS! It wasn't clear to me and I replayed it several times. It wasn't clear to the guys in the booth who also said it was a bad call.

 

[SuperToad]

Huh?

The defenseless receiver rule is dumb, but it is the rule.

I barely even touched him! They called it as if he laid him out leading with his helmet

 

[Fred Garvin]

BS! It wasn't clear to me and I replayed it several times. It wasn't clear to the guys in the booth who also said it was a bad call.

One of them was Craig James, so their opinion means nothing. I thought it was an easy call given the current rules.

Yes, this was the same crew as the Boise State game. I know one of the guys on the crew. The refs didn't really impact this game very much. I thought the key play was allowing a TD to the Aggies late in the game rather than spotting the ball at the 1. Might have turned out differently if the Whorns had 45 fewer seconds.

 

[The Artist Formerly Known as PhormerPhrog]

Helmet to helmet. Not a great call but the hit did occur. The hitter lowered his hat; the hittee's head snapped a bit. I don't like the call but helmet to helmet is going to get called more and more. So we'd better get used to that.

I agre with you and everyone else who feels the same. I've watched upwards of 200 CFB games this year and have seen that called countless times. Did he hold up? Yes. Could he have blown him up? Yes. But under the current interpretation of the rule it was correct. The rules committee put an emphasis on it this year an that's what they've been calling. The DB had 9.9 games to learn this. I don't like it either but that's how they've been calling it.

 

[PurplePutt]

One of them was Craig James, so their opinion means nothing. I thought it was an easy call given the current rules.

Yes, this was the same crew as the Boise State game. I know one of the guys on the crew. The refs didn't really impact this game very much. I thought the key play was allowing a TD to the Aggies late in the game rather than spotting the ball at the 1. Might have turned out differently if the Whorns had 45 fewer seconds.

I don't like Craig James either but give me a break. He wasn't the only one who raised the BS flag. I guess if Craig James said it was white and it really was white you would say it was black just because you hate him. No wonder I was suspended from this site for two months. Trying to refrain from calling out stupidity is really hard.

 

[Vlade Divac]

I'm not going to impugn the profession--but I think there's something in the psyche of human beings--not just officials, but all human beings--that sees a natural order to things, and I think UT gets the benefit of that tendency.

I think there's something to this. And while it sucks to be on the wrong end of it, generally a team earns that sort of tendency. UT has, but it's fading fast.

If we are still seeing this after another 7-5 season next year, I'll hear you out on a fix.

 

[chairez]

He just grazed him and could have blown him up. Terrible call and I am going to say that refs cheat. The fix is in. We saw in in the SMU game. We saw it at BSU. We saw it tonight. The game is being ruined by power and money.

perhaps i am naive. You would think that every official in the NCAA would be closely monitered financially....I agree; it always seems the calls go with the OU/TX's of the world. This concerns me, as we move forward into the B-12.

 

[Kaiser]

Yes it is a rule but he didn't even "hit" the guy...he bumped his helmet. Terrible call.

Helmet to helmet. Dumb dumb rule & a very frustrating rule. Not saying I loved the call, but wasn't surprised by it. They'll make that call on clean hits all the time.

The horse collar call on UT was pretty bad as well. I thought the Aggie was pulled down by his jersey.

 

[PurplePutt]

perhaps i am naive. You would think that every official in the NCAA would be closely monitered financially....I agree; it always seems the calls go with the OU/TX's of the world. This concerns me, as we move forward into the B-12.

I'm not saying they are on the take or being paid off. I am saying that they are influenced by their position within a conference. Did it ever dawn on you how much money the MWC would lose if BSU lost that game to TCU and did not go to a BCS game? How much prestige would that cost the conference. Who pays the refs. Were those refs tonight Big 12 refs? Who is leaving the Big 12? I hate to think it. It isn't a pretty thought but we all have seen a bunch of it this year. Calls that could have been made and weren't and calls that shouldn't have been made and were?

 

[The Artist Formerly Known as PhormerPhrog]

The MWC potentially had everything to lose with a TCU win. What exactly did the BXII have to lose if Texas lost? Bragging rights? I'll believe a conspiracy theory about money before I will one about bragging rights.

 

[Kaiser]

I barely even touched him! They called it as if he laid him out leading with his helmet

And they make that call all the time. Great hits without contact to the head get flagged nowadays. Barely touching someone's helmet gets flagged nowadays. I can't tell you just how many times I've screamed at the TV as a flag comes flying out for barely touching a QB.

It's ruining the game, but they always error on the side of throwing the flag. You don't have to murder-shot someone to get a flag.

He lead with his helmet. He pulled up. He made helmet to helmet contact. The flag came out. It was hardly a surprise.

 

[Limp Lizard]

They wont move an inch in the CPU polls, and no chance they move into the teens.

Massey and Sagarin will move them up. According to Massey #16 beat #15, Sagarin #17 beat #12 (rankings for BCS from those two). Move up one, two or more on those. BTW, both Massey and Sagarin have three loss Baylor #7!

Hopefully Baylor loses to Tech and beats Texas (or not, depending on the BCS rankings).

 

[Dman890]

This thread is absurd. Hate ut all you want but the game was not fixed.

 

[The Artist Formerly Known as PhormerPhrog]

This thread is absurd. Hate ut all you want but the game was not fixed.

+1000

 

[full house frog]

Refs have made that same awful call year, so it was no surprise they did it last night too. A&M only have themselves to blame for that loss.

 

[HFrog1999]

This thread is absurd. Hate ut all you want but the game was not fixed.

It's not about hating UT. It's about hating seeing previously good games get decided by silly penalties.

 

[cdsfrog]

How many PI calls were missed. 5, 6, 7?

 

[corpuschristifrog]

Yes, this was the same crew as the Boise State game. I thought the key play was allowing a TD to the Aggies late in the game rather than spotting the ball at the 1. Might have turned out differently if the Whorns had 45 fewer seconds.

Good point. That would have made a big diference.
The horse collar call was brutal. I think the H to H play was one where the official could have decided to keep the flag in his pocket, but the Ags lost because of the second half interceptions and lousy coverage on the punt return for the td.

 

[DentalFrog]

Nice thread

 

[Dman890]

It's not about hating UT. It's about hating seeing previously good games get decided by silly penalties.

The game was not decided by that call. Even with that call ut still had a 40 yard field goal....hardly a gimme by college standards.

If you're looking to narrow things down to one reason why the game was lost for a&m ....talk to tannehill about his 3 INTs.