Houston Chronicle: Texas, Oklahoma reach out to SEC about joining conference

[Peacefrog]

Anything remotely close to that would be amazing IMO.

Half of that would be better than most alternatives out there.

 

[Moose Stuff]

Half of that would be better than most alternatives out there.

Fact

 

[Froggish]

Here's a Baylor article on revenue projections that's the most favorable yet: https://sicem365.com/s/10447/the-new-big12s-revenue-potential-six-additions-instead-of-four. It projects overall revenues (including Tier 3) in the new Big 12 at $42.4 million per school per year as opposed to the current $47.2 million per school per year and discusses whether going to 14 members (Boise and Memphis) would add more.

It includes Sugar Bowl payouts (which might go away - although the Cotton/Fiesta might replace it depending on CFP negotiations) which are paid only in years where they aren't in the CFP rotation and it averages Tier 3 numbers (although they differ per school).

The tier 3 rights projections he is using is an average and double what we currently make. I’m not sure how our 3rd tier rights would become more valuable in an expanded league…I hope he’s right. Seem incredibly optimistic to think we come out of all of this making 5-7 million more a year than we make now. I’m not sure I’m buying that

 

[Peacefrog]

The tier 3 rights projections he is using is an average and double what we currently make. I’m not sure how our 3rd tier rights would become more valuable in an expanded league…I hope he’s right. Seem incredibly optimistic to think we come out of all of this making 5-7 million more a year than we make now. I’m not sure I’m buying that

Make the tier 3 rights $0 and I’d still be happy with the rest.

 

[Eight]

if the big 12 in their next media contract(s) can come close to the numbers being thrown around and still maintain the opportunity to play in the cfp with OUT going to the sec i would be very gruntled and happy for OUT to pay their tab as soon as possible and go enjoy life in the sec

 

[Peacefrog]

if the big 12 in their next media contract(s) can come close to the numbers being thrown around and still maintain the opportunity to play in the cfp with OUT going to the sec i would be very gruntled and happy for OUT to pay their tab as soon as possible and go enjoy life in the sec

You’d be gruntled and I’d be whelmed.

 

[jake102]

Definitely feels like things are shifting for the better for TCU. Quicker they can announce this and get in place, the less likely any of remaining 8 get poached.

 

[Peacefrog]

Definitely feels like things are shifting for the better for TCU. Quicker they can announce this and get in place, the less likely any of remaining 8 get poached.

I’d still be ok with poaching as long as it’s for more stability and includes TCU. Otherwise no poaching.

 

[Virginia Frog]

You’d be gruntled and I’d be whelmed.

"Gruntled" sound like something Jon Voight did in "Midnight Cowboy."
I'd be happy too, but "gruntled", I'll pass!

 

[Virginia Frog]

Definitely feels like things are shifting for the better for TCU. Quicker they can announce this and get in place, the less likely any of remaining 8 get poached.

Just don't let OU and UT off the hook. Make them play until '24-'25 AND pay up their exit fees.

 

[Eight]

Just don't let OU and UT off the hook. Make them play until '24-'25 AND pay up their exit fees.

if they want to put the full exit fees at the end of this season then great. put the money on the table and get the scheiss out of here because having them around does nothing for the remaining teams if the big 12 keeps the chance at the cfp

 

[Virginia Frog]

if they want to put the full exit fees at the end of this season then great. put the money on the table and get the scheiss out of here because having them around does nothing for the remaining teams if the big 12 keeps the chance at the cfp

You're right. I just want their money $$$.

W/o OU in the conference in let's say '23 & '24 and no expansion of the playoffs they stand the risk of not having any place in the Top 4 slots. Then one of the "leftovers" will have a good chance to "get-in" over a PAC team if they do their work and shine.

You notice I didn't say UT...because they have NO CHANCE for a playoff berth for '23 & '24 in The B12 or SEC! Middling team for certain.

 

[82 Frog Fever]

bottle thrown into the trinity

Maybe a member of UH academia can tell them rivers flow south in this hemisphere.

 

[Eight]

Maybe a member of UH academia can tell them rivers flow south in this hemisphere.

 

[Froggish]

Make the tier 3 rights $0 and I’d still be happy with the rest.

If true, I think that’s enough financial distance between the B12 and the rest of the G5 leagues to keep us relevant as well as help us to look attractive to whoever our next Head Coaching candidates will be. We’ll need a solid pool of candidates some time in the next 3-4 years. The key will be maintaining some automatic playoff birth as a league. Hopefully that’s possible

 

[Moose Stuff]

Just don't let OU and UT off the hook. Make them play until '24-'25 AND pay up their exit fees.

I’d be SHOCKED if they’re still in this league in the spring of 2025.

 

[SuperTFrog]

Here's a Baylor article on revenue projections that's the most favorable yet: https://sicem365.com/s/10447/the-new-big12s-revenue-potential-six-additions-instead-of-four. It projects overall revenues (including Tier 3) in the new Big 12 at $42.4 million per school per year as opposed to the current $47.2 million per school per year and discusses whether going to 14 members (Boise and Memphis) would add more.

It includes Sugar Bowl payouts (which might go away - although the Cotton/Fiesta might replace it depending on CFP negotiations) which are paid only in years where they aren't in the CFP rotation and it averages Tier 3 numbers (although they differ per school).

Things have really gotten desperate when we are using a Baylor Article in a positive light…

 

[Peacefrog]

I’d be SHOCKED if they’re still in this league in the spring of 2025.

I’ll be shocked if they are here in 2022.

 

[OmniscienceFrog]

Since the big 12 almost expanded years ago, I have been saying the best possible solution was adding BYU for football only and Cincy for all sports. This is somewhat along the same lines.

Anyway, wouldn't BYU basketball be a pretty large brand? Other than teams having to travel there once a season why would we not want them?

Might not be that we don't want them.

 

[OmniscienceFrog]

BYU wants in, they want an invite. 100%

Full scale or football only?