FWST: TCU football notebook: Sonny Dykes provides injury update on Hauss Hejny, wide receivers

[froginmn]

Whatever the case, it was a boneheaded move and it got him hurt, in addition to shaking up our putative starter.

It got him hurt?

They put him in for a couple of plays and he was injured. But it's not like they inserted him as a NT; they put him into the game in his natural position so that he could get a feel for it. Wasn't reckless or dangerous in any way, he just got hurt.

As a baseball/softball coach, I pulled pitchers from games early in a season so they got the feel for what that's like, didn't freak out about it, etc.

It was very unfortunate that Hauss got hurt but it wasn't because he was "barely out of HS", nor was it boneheaded. They may very well have wanted Hoover to see a few plays from the sideline (I did a lot of in-game instruction when players were on the bench or on the sideline (soccer)).

It's over the top to say that it got him hurt. It didn't.

 

[BrewingFrog]

It got him hurt?

They put him in for a couple of plays and he was injured. But it's not like they inserted him as a NT; they put him into the game in his natural position so that he could get a feel for it. Wasn't reckless or dangerous in any way, he just got hurt.

As a baseball/softball coach, I pulled pitchers from games early in a season so they got the feel for what that's like, didn't freak out about it, etc.

It was very unfortunate that Hauss got hurt but it wasn't because he was "barely out of HS", nor was it boneheaded. They may very well have wanted Hoover to see a few plays from the sideline (I did a lot of in-game instruction when players were on the bench or on the sideline (soccer)).

It's over the top to say that it got him hurt. It didn't.

Hmmm. Let's review: He went in. He got hurt. There you have it!

Now, did our Crack Staff have any idea that he would get dinged up? Nope. But, it is always a possibility, and it's even more of a possibility if the kid is playing in his very first Collegiate game, unused to the speed and level of play he would face. Yeah, he's been in practice, but he's wearing the "Don't Hit Me!" shirt, and nobody is going at game speed with the adrenaline flowing like in a game situation. The smarter play would have been to let the kid take snaps on Saturday against LIU, after they had been beaten into submission, in a situation where the game was not still in doubt and he could get a feel for the speed and violence of the game without the pressure to try and do something spectacular. Now he gets to think about getting hit and injured while he limps around for three weeks, losing his edge, while everybody else gets to play and have fun.

Risk/Reward calculus was abysmal. But, they did it anyway. In my book it was a dumb move made for no good reason at all.

 

[Prince of Purpoole II]

Am I like the only poster here who liked inserting Hauss when we did? I thought it was the right time to give a different look and let him get his first snaps out of the way. Only thing I thought was odd was how quickly he came back off the field. (Which made more sense once we found out about the injury situation)

No you’re not alone

 

[LisaLT]

Ignoring the risk to injury to a kid just barely out of HS (he’s really lucky his injury wasn’t worse; looked to be Achilles), it was stupid to take your starter out because it took him completely out of rhythm (went 2/11 on his next 13 passes).

That is a valid point. To me it seemed the timing was odd for whatever "package" of plays they had for him. The injury was not a result of that decision though. Just super bad luck.

 

[CardFrog]

And if Haus didn't get hurt and threw a TD pass everyone would be saying what a brilliant move......

 

[froginmn]

Hmmm. Let's review: He went in. He got hurt. There you have it!

Now, did our Crack Staff have any idea that he would get dinged up? Nope. But, it is always a possibility, and it's even more of a possibility if the kid is playing in his very first Collegiate game, unused to the speed and level of play he would face. Yeah, he's been in practice, but he's wearing the "Don't Hit Me!" shirt, and nobody is going at game speed with the adrenaline flowing like in a game situation. The smarter play would have been to let the kid take snaps on Saturday against LIU, after they had been beaten into submission, in a situation where the game was not still in doubt and he could get a feel for the speed and violence of the game without the pressure to try and do something spectacular. Now he gets to think about getting hit and injured while he limps around for three weeks, losing his edge, while everybody else gets to play and have fun.

Risk/Reward calculus was abysmal. But, they did it anyway. In my book it was a dumb move made for no good reason at all.

I guess I don't know what you saw relative to the speed of the game for Hauss. I saw him come in and hand the ball off for a two yard gain, then run right for eight yards on a keeper (he was caught and tackled before running out of bounds), and then being hit behind the LOS on a read option and tackled.

I just didn't see anything that was concerning relative to the situation he was put in, and didn't even realize he'd been injured until much later. If he'd taken a big blindside hit or been asked to drop and throw a deep ball in the face of a blitz that would have been dumb. But he handed off once without being hit and then ran the ball twice. If we can't use him that way against the vaunted Stanford D, I don't know why we have him. Whatever caused the injury (there was no clear call out) could have happened against any opponent or in practice.

 

[TopFrog]

Want to see McAlister.

 

[Dtx_Frog_Fan]

Am I like the only poster here who liked inserting Hauss when we did? I thought it was the right time to give a different look and let him get his first snaps out of the way. Only thing I thought was odd was how quickly he came back off the field. (Which made more sense once we found out about the injury situation)

I liked the mix up and the first down he got for us. Injury was just an unfortunate inherent risk.

 

[Dtx_Frog_Fan]

Hmmm. Let's review: He went in. He got hurt. There you have it!

Now, did our Crack Staff have any idea that he would get dinged up? Nope. But, it is always a possibility, and it's even more of a possibility if the kid is playing in his very first Collegiate game, unused to the speed and level of play he would face. Yeah, he's been in practice, but he's wearing the "Don't Hit Me!" shirt, and nobody is going at game speed with the adrenaline flowing like in a game situation. The smarter play would have been to let the kid take snaps on Saturday against LIU, after they had been beaten into submission, in a situation where the game was not still in doubt and he could get a feel for the speed and violence of the game without the pressure to try and do something spectacular. Now he gets to think about getting hit and injured while he limps around for three weeks, losing his edge, while everybody else gets to play and have fun.

Risk/Reward calculus was abysmal. But, they did it anyway. In my book it was a dumb move made for no good reason at all.

The injury was happened because injuries happen in football.

 

[CryptoMiner]

Hmmm. Let's review: He went in. He got hurt. There you have it!

Now, did our Crack Staff have any idea that he would get dinged up? Nope. But, it is always a possibility, and it's even more of a possibility if the kid is playing in his very first Collegiate game, unused to the speed and level of play he would face. Yeah, he's been in practice, but he's wearing the "Don't Hit Me!" shirt, and nobody is going at game speed with the adrenaline flowing like in a game situation. The smarter play would have been to let the kid take snaps on Saturday against LIU, after they had been beaten into submission, in a situation where the game was not still in doubt and he could get a feel for the speed and violence of the game without the pressure to try and do something spectacular. Now he gets to think about getting hit and injured while he limps around for three weeks, losing his edge, while everybody else gets to play and have fun.

Risk/Reward calculus was abysmal. But, they did it anyway. In my book it was a dumb move made for no good reason at all.

They should have never taken him out of the bubble-wrap.

 

[Trelvis]

The only problem I have with it is that the unexpected injury hurts this week because he probably sees alot of playing time which would have been more valuable than a couple random plays against Stanford. Should have saved that stuff for this week and next.

 

[Wexahu]

I guess I don't know what you saw relative to the speed of the game for Hauss. I saw him come in and hand the ball off for a two yard gain, then run right for eight yards on a keeper (he was caught and tackled before running out of bounds), and then being hit behind the LOS on a read option and tackled.

I just didn't see anything that was concerning relative to the situation he was put in, and didn't even realize he'd been injured until much later. If he'd taken a big blindside hit or been asked to drop and throw a deep ball in the face of a blitz that would have been dumb. But he handed off once without being hit and then ran the ball twice. If we can't use him that way against the vaunted Stanford D, I don't know why we have him. Whatever caused the injury (there was no clear call out) could have happened against any opponent or in practice.

He has it out for Dykes and Briles so the axe that must be grinded doesn't allow for any objectivity in his posts.

 

[82 Frog Fever]

I thought it was a bit unnecessary to play Hauss at that point in the game, but I guess I understand WHY they did it. Unfortunately, it resulted in him getting injured (obviously a consequence that was unforeseen). I guess we might get to see Ken Seals up next. I am actually interested to see him play.

It was interesting to look at Hejny’s face. He had no idea he was going in, and it was at a fairly crucial stage of the game. Maybe the coaches did it to see how he would handle intense pressure.
OTOH, I bet Stanford was totally in the dark. They know relatively nothing about Hejny.
One thing is for sure, it speaks loudly to the level of confidence coaches have in Hauss.

 

[Mean Purple]

"If a dog is gonna bite you, it's gonna do it as a pup"

 

[HornyWartyToad]

Good Lord. Injuries happen. You can't blame everything on Kendal Briles.

Well, not with that attitude, you can't.

 

[Prince of Purpoole II]

I’m not trying to start anything but the number of posts on this thread drawing conclusions from ‘the look on x’s face’ is comical

 

[Michael Milton's Jaw]

The only problem I have with it is that the unexpected injury hurts this week because he probably sees alot of playing time which would have been more valuable than a couple random plays against Stanford. Should have saved that stuff for this week and next.

I bet the kid learned not to go dancing with a senior LB, that held him up, while others came in and took low/ strip shots on him. This is not high school, get down, you are too small to mix it up with LB’s.

 

[BrewingFrog]

I bet the kid learned not to go dancing with a senior LB, that held him up, while others came in and took low/ strip shots on him. This is not high school, get down, you are too small to mix it up with LB’s.

Wow. You must hate The Whelp. It's the only way to explain your concise and logical observation.

 

[Michael Milton's Jaw]

Wow. You must hate The Whelp. It's the only way to explain your concise and logical observation.

I watched the replay, we are lucky he did not get a knee blown. They kind of high/ lowed him. But being a freshman, he pops up, runs to the sideline with only a very slight limp. I guess once the adrenaline rush wore off, he must had started to feel it more.

 

[Putt4Purple]

I bet the kid learned not to go dancing with a senior LB, that held him up, while others came in and took low/ strip shots on him. This is not high school, get down, you are too small to mix it up with LB’s.

For Christ sake man! It’s football man! Injuries happen no matter how little, how much you play. Pee Wee, Middle School, High School, College or Professional NFL! Get a grip and deal with it. Whenever the coaches decide to put him in the game it is on! Go Frogs!