Boom nailed me
Or was it the fake kicker?
I would love for Hurts to come here as much as anyone and I think we definitely need what he can bring, but I think "program altering moment" may be setting the expectations for him way too high if he does come. He's a strong QB, but I don't think he'd be the best we've ever had and I don't think 1 year with him would do much to alter the long term trajectory of the program.
Hurts profile meens it could be program altering even if he doesn’t lead us to a title. There’s no doubt that him picking TCU gives us some national validity we like to complain about not having
I guess I just disagree. Hurts is a guy who lost 2 games out of 28 as Bama starter, but he was never given much credit for being more than a great running QB. He had a great moment in the SEC title game, but that's about it. I think people see Hurts as the best grad xfer QB available, but I don't think anyone expects him to be a Heisman candidate wherever he goes. The comments in this thread seem to expect that type of output. I just don't see it happening.
Context Purp....Close you eyes for a moment...Think about Hurt. His accomplishments and his skill sets.....Now stop...take a deep breath and think about the complete pile of [ Finebaum ] QB play we rolled out for 13 games this year...Hurt is a significant upgrade any way you shake it. He doesn’t have to be a heisman candidate to elevate this team
I don't disagree with a word you said here. There is a huge difference, however, between "elevate this team" and "program altering moment" IMO.
If he brings us to the playoffs, then I would agree it is program altering. Whether we go to the playoffs or not, I would LOVE to have this guy. I think we win 10-11 games next year with him. All of the pieces are in place.
Let me ask you something. If you can for a moment consider the potential of this defense next year. Length and athleticism on the back end that we have NEVER had before. Speed at LB and the 2 best DT's in the conference. Combine that with 2 of the best RB's in the big 12, the best returning receiver in the conference (all world talent), and hopefully an OL that makes a jump like 16-17, don't you think this could be a near playoff team with a QB at the level of Jalen Hurts? He is mobile, can take off, doesn't make mistakes, and has a solid arm. Turnovers alone would've added 2-3 wins to this dumspter fire this year, you're telling me that a guy who has been through the toughest battles, played in 2 national championships, and played for the best coach of all time can't bring an attitude and way of thinking that gets this program over the top into the CFP? I would argue this program desperately needs an infusion of outside thinking to get us into that next elite category, and a situation like this is a perfect way to do it. His numbers would explode with these weapons in this conference. CFB is all about having things fall your way in a particular year. Let's say best case he comes, shows our guys what it takes to make the top 4, and we get in. Recruiting jumps to another level, maybe 2, we are now taken seriously by the national media, and we have solidifed ourselves as serious players.
I hear you. I am just asking y'all to visualize the idea of what his level of play at its current level, without any improvement, would do for this team. What we witnessed from the QB position this year should make us all accomplices to a crime. Simply insert Hurts against Big 12 defenses and imagine how much the team as a whole would improve. I'm not suggesting he will win the Heisman. Simply envision the idea of not turning the ball over and keeping our top ranked defense off the field is all I'm saying.
I can envision anything you want me to, but I think there's a decent chance that what you and some others consider to be "his level of play" is quite a bit higher than what I think it is.
Look. I don't know what else to say that I haven't already said. I want him at TCU as badly as anybody. I think he gives us our most likely chance to win next year hands down. But I don't see him blowing the doors off the B12 like so many of you do.
