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Fox News: NCAA Power Four commissioners say they 'need help from Congress' to regulate NIL, transfer portal

TopFrog

TopFrog

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NCAA Power Four commissioners say they 'need help from Congress' to regulate NIL, transfer portal​

The commissioners appeared on Fox News with Bret Baier​

By Ryan Morik Fox News

Name, image and likeness continues to ravage college sports, and the commissioners of the NCAA's Power Four conferences are desperate.

Greg Sankey, Jim Phillips, Tony Petitti and Brett Yormark have all been on Capitol Hill to discuss with Congress how it can help regulate NIL and the transfer portal, the latter of which continues to be a hit among college athletes looking to score more money.

More than 1,000 Division I college basketball players have entered the portal since it opened March 24.

Read the rest at https://www.foxnews.com/sports/ncaa...lp-from-congress-regulate-nil-transfer-portal
 
Dogfrog

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TopFrog said:
NCAA

NCAA Power Four commissioners say they 'need help from Congress' to regulate NIL, transfer portal​

The commissioners appeared on Fox News with Bret Baier​

By Ryan Morik Fox News

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Name, image and likeness continues to ravage college sports, and the commissioners of the NCAA's Power Four conferences are desperate.

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Greg Sankey, Jim Phillips, Tony Petitti and Brett Yormark have all been on Capitol Hill to discuss with Congress how it can help regulate NIL and the transfer portal, the latter of which continues to be a hit among college athletes looking to score more money.

More than 1,000 Division I college basketball players have entered the portal since it opened March 24.

Read the rest at https://www.foxnews.com/sports/ncaa...lp-from-congress-regulate-nil-transfer-portal
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You know SEC, Big 10, and ESPN have screwed it up badly if they need Congress to screw it up even worse.
 
BrewingFrog

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I would imagine that they want Congress to do something because any rules they formulate and post would be challenged in Court immediately, cost zillions to litigate, and they'd probably lose in the end. So, getting Congress to do something takes the heat off them and lets them get on with continuing to screw up College Athletics.

Of course, Congress will only dither, delay, and then screw matters up far worse than we can possibly imagine...
 
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Wexahu

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BrewingFrog said:
I would imagine that they want Congress to do something because any rules they formulate and post would be challenged in Court immediately, cost zillions to litigate, and they'd probably lose in the end. So, getting Congress to do something takes the heat off them and lets them get on with continuing to screw up College Athletics.

Of course, Congress will only dither, delay, and then screw matters up far worse than we can possibly imagine...
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How would you do it?

All things considered, I think the NCAA did a pretty good job for 75+ years.
 
Dogfrog

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Wexahu said:
How would you do it?

All things considered, I think the NCAA did a pretty good job for 75+ years.
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They created their own problem. College athletics is now 100% about revenue generation, practically 0% about education. Athletics is a side hustle for colleges. Guessing they are now confused by the out of control player free agency and salaries. College athletics has always been paranoid about player lawsuits. They probably want Congress to help them set limits so they won’t get sued.
 
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Two very easy fixes:

  1. Cap on NIL revenue per player
  2. Some sort of penalty for transferring, such as: one-year lowered cap on NIL earnings, one-year eligibility loss, etc.
 
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Wexahu

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Dogfrog said:
They created their own problem. College athletics is now 100% about revenue generation, practically 0% about education. Athletics is a side hustle for colleges. Guessing they are now confused by the out of control player free agency and salaries. College athletics has always been paranoid about player lawsuits. They probably want Congress to help them set limits so they won’t get sued.
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Yes, I suppose they did.

But I hardly ever hear the biggest complainers about the NCAA offer any real solutions, or a realistic way they would have done things differently.
 
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Wexahu

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FroggleRock said:
Two very easy fixes:

  1. Cap on NIL revenue per player
  2. Some sort of penalty for transferring, such as: one-year lowered cap on NIL earnings, one-year eligibility loss, etc.
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The bold fixes 90% of the problems overnight, but I guess it would be illegal. I think caps would be about impossible to regulate, so I think with the pay for play thing once they let players make money thus turning them into professional, just let them make as much as they want.
 
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tetonfrog

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Wexahu said:
How would you do it?

All things considered, I think the NCAA did a pretty good job for 75+ years.
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You are ignoring 50+ years of the NCAA's greed, corruption, favoritism and incompetence. Its selective enforcement of its rules and wait-and-see attitude on issues ranging from cheating to NIL to the new era of Super conferences that is coming soon.

Start with our school and our old conference. The NCAA hammers TCU when it turns itself in 1985 under Wacker, gives SMU the Death Penalty later, but ignores the rampant cheating at ATM. Worse, it turns a blind eye on the SEC for doing the same things that the SWC did back in the day.

Modern-day messes like its botched investigation into the Miami football program that lasted years when its own investigators were corrupt.

Or how about giving Kansas a free pass on its basketball violations when it had a recording of Self admitting that that wanted to pay players. But it hammered OSU and Arizona for doing the same thing? Or how about letting a scum bag like John Calipari continue to coach after he put UMass and Texas Tech on probation.

The biggest reason we have this NIL/transfer mess is because it waited until the last minute to make any changes or set any rules because it simply didn't want to dilute its own power. Now, it refuses to fight the move towards football Super conferences because the SEC/Big 10 schools are threatening to leave the NCAA all together.

Saying the NCAA did a "pretty good job" is like saying the crew of the Titanic did a "pretty good job" after hitting that iceberg.
 
Dogfrog

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Wexahu said:
Yes, I suppose they did.

But I hardly ever hear the biggest complainers about the NCAA offer any real solutions, or a realistic way they would have done things differently.
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The NCAA was originally set up to represent the college presidents with regard to athletic matters. I think the Presidents were originally directly involved and then over time they became less involved, sending representatives to meetings, etc. Over the years as athletics became more and more profitable, the Presidents enjoyed the income while becoming less involved in the details. I don’t blame the NCAA, I blame the college Presidents for disappearing. The one President who years ago had the courage to buck the system during the BCS period was Scott Cowen at Tulane. It was a valiant effort but failed and the rest is history.
 
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Wexahu

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Dogfrog said:
The NCAA was originally set up to represent the college presidents with regard to athletic matters. I think the Presidents were originally directly involved and then over time they became less involved, sending representatives to meetings, etc. Over the years as athletics became more and more profitable, the Presidents enjoyed the income while becoming less involved in the details. I don’t blame the NCAA, I blame the college Presidents for disappearing. The one President who years ago had the courage to buck the system during the BCS period was Scott Cowen at Tulane. It was a valiant effort but failed and the rest is history.
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Totally agree, it’s the Presidents who are to blame IMO, not the NCAA.
 
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froginaustin

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Wexahu said:
Totally agree, it’s the Presidents who are to blame IMO, not the NCAA.
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Nah. That's like saying because Der Fuehrer had a vision he gets all the blame, and the people who ran the camps that moved the vision to reality are not to blame. Extreme comparison, but nevertheless true IMHO.

From the article: "Added Sankey, who runs the SEC, 'To have a College World Series, to have a College Football Playoff, to have national championships, you have to have national standards.'"

It's usually coincidence (or each of us having completely different reasons that lead to the same result) when I agree with an SEC main mouthpiece, but that happens here. Although I doubt he and I would agree on what should be the subject of "national standards".
 
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froginaustin

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bc puckett said:
Since this is probably the first of many I think it's past time someone figured it out.

www.espn.com

Sources: Iamaleava no-shows Vols amid NIL talk

Quarterback Nico Iamaleava did not attend Tennessee's spring practice Friday amid ongoing NIL negotiations, sources told ESPN.
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I suppose Nico isn't worrying about other Tennessee quarterbacks developing in the spring, or UTn finding its own mercenary and paying him what Nico is offered (or less).
 
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Wexahu

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tetonfrog said:
You are ignoring 50+ years of the NCAA's greed, corruption, favoritism and incompetence. Its selective enforcement of its rules and wait-and-see attitude on issues ranging from cheating to NIL to the new era of Super conferences that is coming soon.

Start with our school and our old conference. The NCAA hammers TCU when it turns itself in 1985 under Wacker, gives SMU the Death Penalty later, but ignores the rampant cheating at ATM. Worse, it turns a blind eye on the SEC for doing the same things that the SWC did back in the day.

Modern-day messes like its botched investigation into the Miami football program that lasted years when its own investigators were corrupt.

Or how about giving Kansas a free pass on its basketball violations when it had a recording of Self admitting that that wanted to pay players. But it hammered OSU and Arizona for doing the same thing? Or how about letting a scum bag like John Calipari continue to coach after he put UMass and Texas Tech on probation.

The biggest reason we have this NIL/transfer mess is because it waited until the last minute to make any changes or set any rules because it simply didn't want to dilute its own power. Now, it refuses to fight the move towards football Super conferences because the SEC/Big 10 schools are threatening to leave the NCAA all together.

Saying the NCAA did a "pretty good job" is like saying the crew of the Titanic did a "pretty good job" after hitting that iceberg.
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I think you've got the wrong target. It's the Presidents of the universities that are more to blame. The NCAA works for them, not the other way around. This sounds like more complaining about whose ox got gored and whose didn't. The NCAA gets criticized when they enforce rules, they get criticized when they don't, it's just one of those things where people are never happy with them no matter what.

They certainly aren't perfect, but I think they did a pretty good job for many, many years. About 3,000 employees trying to make sure 1,100 schools and 300,000 athletes or so are playing by the rules when so many of them try to gain whatever advantage they can is an impossible task.

If Kansas was violating rules, that's on the Kansas President more than the NCAA IMO.
 
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Wexahu

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froginaustin said:
Nah. That's like saying because Der Fuehrer had a vision he gets all the blame, and the people who ran the camps that moved the vision to reality are not to blame. Extreme comparison, but nevertheless true IMHO.

From the article: "Added Sankey, who runs the SEC, 'To have a College World Series, to have a College Football Playoff, to have national championships, you have to have national standards.'"

It's usually coincidence (or each of us having completely different reasons that lead to the same result) when I agree with an SEC main mouthpiece, but that happens here. Although I doubt he and I would agree on what should be the subject of "national standards".
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Actually, it's like saying the opposite of that.
 

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