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Wexahu

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If you say so chief…nobody thinks Hoover is a top 15 qb in the nation or top 5 QB in the conference with OU / UT
No, they don’t, you’re right.

He was a redshirt freshman. Duggan wasn’t a top 60 QB when he was a sophomore. Ended up the Heisman runner up. Boykin probably wasn’t a top 75 QB when he was a redshirt freshman, wasn’t even close to what Hoover was this year. And he turned out alright.
 

mgsouthpaw

Active Member
No, they don’t, you’re right.

He was a redshirt freshman. Duggan wasn’t a top 60 QB when he was a sophomore. Ended up the Heisman runner up. Boykin probably wasn’t a top 75 QB when he was a redshirt freshman, wasn’t even close to what Hoover was this year. And he turned out alright.
the boykin turnaround was the biggest surprise for me ever - prior to 2014 he was a disaster - when he left he was the best qb to ever wear the jersey at tcu. no chance i'd rather have anyone else under center than boykin - yes, i know who the others are, but boykin was that much better.
 

Limey Frog

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the boykin turnaround was the biggest surprise for me ever - prior to 2014 he was a disaster - when he left he was the best qb to ever wear the jersey at tcu. no chance i'd rather have anyone else under center than boykin - yes, i know who the others are, but boykin was that much better.
Boykin, like Duggan, had shown flashes as an underclassman. He tore up Baylor in Waco as a redshirt freshman in 2012 (after halftime at least). That was glorious.
 

ShreveFrog

Full Member
By my quick research, OU, UT, KU and BYU are the only current Big XII teams that DON'T run some form of 335.
Next year, Arizona will join the ranks of conference foes running the 335. KU, BYU, ASU and Utah will be our only conference foes that DON'T run 335.
Now maybe Gillespie stays in his base 335 more than the rest??? Others may bring a backer closer to the LOS more often than we do???
 

CardFrog

Active Member
By my quick research, OU, UT, KU and BYU are the only current Big XII teams that DON'T run some form of 335.
Next year, Arizona will join the ranks of conference foes running the 335. KU, BYU, ASU and Utah will be our only conference foes that DON'T run 335.
Now maybe Gillespie stays in his base 335 more than the rest??? Others may bring a backer closer to the LOS more often than we do???
I don't know that a 3-3-5 cant work but you have to have the right athletes and be willing to mix it up to get some pressure now and again. We just seemed lacking on both of those all year long. If Gillespie went to a different scheme with the same players would it have made a difference? Many on here believe that is the case, including me.
 

Wexahu

Full Member
I don't know that a 3-3-5 cant work but you have to have the right athletes and be willing to mix it up to get some pressure now and again. We just seemed lacking on both of those all year long. If Gillespie went to a different scheme with the same players would it have made a difference? Many on here believe that is the case, including me.
I don't know if there is enough D-line (or LB) talent on this team to have a "good" defense. I don't think there's one guy in that front 6 who is even registering on NFL radars, and that is a huge problem. You gotta have some dudes up there wreaking some havoc. So we're behind the 8-ball until we fix the personnel issues there. I know we had a couple freshman that were highly sought after but I don't think they really saw the field much at all this year....I guess they weren't ready.

Anyway, I really don't think it's a scheme problem, it's more what you do out of that scheme. You can rush the passer like hell out of a 3-3-5, you just have to bring some of the middle 3 a lot.
 

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