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Clutch Points: Ranking 10 greatest TCU football players of all time

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Michael Milton's Jaw

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ShadowFrog said:
As I recall, he was our offensive yards leader back then not just in catches but also in his ability to suddenly go from speedster to dead stop in a heartbeat and the defensive back crashes into him causing a massive penalty.
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He got good coaching from his dad Ray, 12 years in the NFL and coached the WR‘s for Tom Landry at the Cowboys until the early 1970’s.
 
tcudoc

tcudoc

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Bigpurple872 said:
Boykin in front of Duggan or Dalton. Dalton was a very good college qb. He wasn't all world
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Dalton was 42-8 over 4 years as a starter, with only one loss in his last 2 years. He led the 2009 team to a #6 finish and the 2010 team to an undefeated #2 finish with a Rose Bowl victory over a very good Wisconsin team. That may be a bit better than very good. Perhaps not all world, but just one bad Fiesta Bowl team performance away from leading his team to perfection 2 seasons in a row. I think he deserves to be there. Boykin was very good as well and had moments that were amazing. He also had a couple of early years that were not so great and he certainly didn't finish strong as a leader (and I think that has to count for a little bit in a tie breaker). He was also a Heisman contender, but likely, had TCU not gained national prominence under Dalton's leadership, no one from TCU would be in consideration for national individual awards, IMO.
 
froginmn

froginmn

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tcudoc said:
He was also a Heisman contender, but likely, had TCU not gained national prominence under Dalton's leadership, no one from TCU would be in consideration for national individual awards, IMO.
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You're obviously playing chess with a pigeon (I have that poster on ignore) but I'd argue your point about national awards, as LT was in the Heisman discussion...
 
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tcudoc

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froginmn said:
You're obviously playing chess with a pigeon (I have that poster on ignore) but I'd argue your point about national awards, as LT was in the Heisman discussion...
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True. Really, the resurgence started with him and his team. But Dalton's crew took it up a notch on the national stage. Boykin led the team that went to the Peach Bowl, which may have been a better team, so I get the argument for Boykin. I just feel that Dalton still edges him out based on all factors.
 
TopFrog

TopFrog

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tcudoc said:
True. Really, the resurgence started with him and his team. But Dalton's crew took it up a notch on the national stage. Boykin led the team that went to the Peach Bowl, which may have been a better team, so I get the argument for Boykin. I just feel that Dalton still edges him out based on all factors.
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Yes, two BCS bowls and a Rose Bowl win gets you the nod. But it is a crime Boykin and that team did not play for the NC. I think that team could have/would have won it.
 
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Bigpurple872

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tcudoc said:
Dalton was 42-8 over 4 years as a starter, with only one loss in his last 2 years. He led the 2009 team to a #6 finish and the 2010 team to an undefeated #2 finish with a Rose Bowl victory over a very good Wisconsin team. That may be a bit better than very good. Perhaps not all world, but just one bad Fiesta Bowl team performance away from leading his team to perfection 2 seasons in a row. I think he deserves to be there. Boykin was very good as well and had moments that were amazing. He also had a couple of early years that were not so great and he certainly didn't finish strong as a leader (and I think that has to count for a little bit in a tie breaker). He was also a Heisman contender, but likely, had TCU not gained national prominence under Dalton's leadership, no one from TCU would be in consideration for national individual awards, IMO.
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Different competition in that conference
 
ShreveFrog

ShreveFrog

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Dalton’s 2010 Frogs beat a better bowl opponent than the ‘14 Frogs. And Dalton was flawless. The only team tougher than Wisconsin that I had seen us play was ‘08 Oklahoma.
 
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