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Then why would they not jump on the bandwagon in the Big12. Are they waiting for the fairy god mother ESPN to save them. If so then maybe they are too delusional to bring aboard.
Just curious, where that figure is... even if just the PAC 4 corner teams would receive 56 million each, or $900,000,000 for the Big12 in 2024.I think this whole thing is done. None of the teams wanting to join the B1GSEC bring enough money. Not even Clem or FSU, and certainly not Oregon, Washington or Miami or UNC. And the SEC teams don't want to help those ACC teams who they already compete with now.
ND will spend the next two years extracting whatever they want/need from NBC to comfortably stay independent.
This round is done although it will drag on for the two years ND has left on their NBC deal.
The remaining PAC teams have a decision to make: starve in a PAC10, starve in an Alliance of Suckers with the ACC, or make $56mil in the Big12.
Some may give up football and with those deficits they probably should.
I don’t think there is any way it’s gonna be $56M each. I think people are just making up numbers.Just curious, where that figure is... even if just the PAC 4 corner teams would receive 56 million each, or $900,000,000 for the Big12 in 2024.
Sweeney Todd would be my guessWhat were you rehearsing for?
FOX is promoting and making a game of the BIG TEN poaching other conferences. I guess they feel no conflict of interest with the Big 12. Does this suggest FOX has no interest in contract renewals with the Big 12 and PAC?
If we can get Amazon or another streamer to pony up, Why not convince OUT to stay and take UW and OU. With that you can crawfish the SEC and watch the world burn.
I tend to think fans and boosters think this way, but I think most realize UT lack of success has no root in the big 12. They are moving to sec bc of the money and bc they will play big state schools every week versus the mostly lackluster remaining big 12 (harsh but true).texas is convinced all their problems and shortcomings on the field are not because of their issues, but that they have been saddled with the burden of financially carrying the big 12 and are being drug down on the field and in recruiting by the dead weight on the big 12.
there only way to find success is leaving the big 12 as the biggest fish in the pond and go to the sec where they will be just another school that thinks they are the biggest swinging dick in the conference
that might not make any sense, but settle does anything that comes out of austin
But how can you have a credible national championship among the 2 superconferences (if that's a goal) if you exclude teams like Clemson, Oregon and possibly (gag, I know) Notre Dame?I think this whole thing is done. None of the teams wanting to join the B1GSEC bring enough money. Not even Clem or FSU, and certainly not Oregon, Washington or Miami or UNC. And the SEC teams don't want to help those ACC teams who they already compete with now.
ND will spend the next two years extracting whatever they want/need from NBC to comfortably stay independent.
Notre Dame is somewhat more tolerable now with freeman at the helm instead of kelly.But how can you have a credible national championship among the 2 superconferences (if that's a goal) if you exclude teams like Clemson, Oregon and possibly (gag, I know) Notre Dame?
Ideologically they’re definitely more west coast than heartland USA thoughKinda funny how some view CU as a Pac12 team.
They were in the Big 6/7/8/12 since 1947...
Borders Oklahoma and 50 miles from Texas...plus 3 very large states away from the West Coast. Maybe in some parts you may be right, but their rural area might as well be Texas... and Austin, itself with out the Govt, is more progressive than Denver.Ideologically they’re definitely more west coast than heartland USA though
You've gotta be a map expert to know that Colorado is only 50 miles from Texas. And a dusty 50 miles, too.Borders Oklahoma and 50 miles from Texas...plus 3 very large states away from the West Coast. Maybe in some parts you may be right, but their rural area might as well be Texas... and Austin, itself with out the Govt, is more progressive than Denver.
This is where FOX and CBS with no SEC football can put together a good TV contract to attract the PAC schools plus Screw ESPNPush back for the B12 to be in the driver's seat comes from four initials: E S P N
They have always viewed the B12 without OU and UT with distain. They want us to go far away and be a small nothing.
Getting PAC teams upset their plans. This part of the country to ESPN is primarily SEC territory. They want no completion.
Does that really matter?Ideologically they’re definitely more west coast than heartland USA though