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Eight

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At the end of the day though the kids make the decision not the high school coach.

As for the sales comment the head of sales is CGP, he isn't the one blowing smoke and telling kids yes to everything. Based on what we have been told over the years the reason we tend to lose out on big time recruits has to do with how everything gets pitched and the bag man. We don't sugarcoat it, some others tend to do just that. Also the big state schools have massive fan bases and these kids get all the "love" that a small school like us can't provide via Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, etc., some of those guys are coming in as true freshmen with thousands of followers.

you are right, kids make the ultimate decisions but coaches do have influence as well as personal trainers and the people who run the 7 on 7 teams.

tcu has to maximize every point of contact because we don't carry the brand recognition it should inside this state. that means a strong relationship with the coaches across the state.

you also have to look at things from time to time and ask if you need to make changes. consider that in 2019 tcu signed 3 players from the metroplex area. it had been 9 classes since tcu has signed that few a players from the metroplex area.

right now, the frogs only have 1 pledge and between 2011 and 2018 the frogs had signed no fewer than 5 metroplex players in any give year. maybe it is just a cycle and maybe something merits further review.

finally, gary indeed is the head of sales and gary isn't the greatest closer. you have to know your strengths. that doesn't mean you act or do things that aren't you, but the very best leaders i have ever been around aren't afraid to lean on others and that might mean new ideas.
 

Dogfrog

Active Member
This whole sales analogy is partly true I suppose but way overdone IMO. These kids are not VP’s of supply chain. They tend to have typical 18 year old egos, hormones and dreams. Seems more fantasy management.
 

Eight

Member
This whole sales analogy is partly true I suppose but way overdone IMO. These kids are not VP’s of supply chain. They tend to have typical 18 year old egos, hormones and dreams. Seems more fantasy management.

maybe, but how different is it from direct sales where you are in front of the prospect and you aren't selling the product as much as a concept, a feeling, you are using a connection or emotions to motivate a decision?

we aren't talking about selling 10,000 cogs, but asking someone to make a decision to trust that you have the answer to their future.

the entire concept of using disturbing questions in a client meeting is designed to create emotions that you can use to build a connection to an idea or belief.
 
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