McFroggin
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Not sure this is a good thing for anyone at the moment. Davila is a few years out from starting. Our O Coordinator could be completely different by then. It is silly to make a decision based on a coordinator.
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Not sure this is a good thing for anyone at the moment. Davila is a few years out from starting. Our O Coordinator could be completely different by then. It is silly to make a decision based on a coordinator.
82 Frog Fever
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You’re right. It would be much smarter for these coaches to use up a roster spot on a kid that will never play meaningful
minutes in this offense, instead of a kid that can run the offense & benefit the team.
… and Davila should have stayed, hoping for these coaches to get fired, just so he can play.
CryptoMiner
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Point is he really didn't have a choice and there wasn't anything needed to pull.
McFroggin
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No way to know if any hs QB can run our offense. No team has consistently shown the ability to obtain high school QB’s that can do that.
Davila is a talented kid that vary well could have started here. Hope we can find someone even better, but it’s never a positive to lose 4 star QB’s with strong arms.
Froggy Style
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Can’t think of many immobile QBs that have been worth a darn in any of our systems in The past 20 years…regardless of starsies. By not taking this one, there will be many dual threats seeing a path to starting soon.
McFroggin
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Kenny Hill and Andy Dalton were not very mobile. Boykin and Duggan were dual threat
This Ain't Chopped Liver
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Marcos Davila received a very good scouting report here which includes, “very good lateral movement with a quick first step.” He also has a 3.8 GPA.
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SIZE:
Marcos has excellent size for a 2024 Pro Style QB at 6’3” 205 lbs. Stands tall in the pocket with very good vision downfield. He's a pure passer, with sound throwing mechanics and consistency.
ACCURACY:
This is an area of strength for Marcos. He's very consistent, allowing for his throws to be made in-line with his receivers. Excellent ball placement, demonstrating very good anticipation and timing of his receivers routes.
ARM STRENGTH:
Can light it up anywhere on the field. His throws are made of high velocity, able to get to his receivers in a hurry. Excellent vertical passing game, able to extend the field with bombs over the secondary.
RELEASE:
Marcos throws with a fully extended arm release. It comes from up over the top with a high release point. Displays solid footwork getting to his setup, with good balance and stride.
THROW ON RUN:
An athletic QB for his size who can hurt a defense out in the open field. Excellent vision downfield as he works to the outside. Strong forward momentum upon his delivery. Very good lateral movement, with a quick first step. Consistent stride and balance on his dropbacks and setups.
POISE:
He wins awards in just about every competition he competes in. Always among the top passers. Very confident in his abilities as a QB.Marcos displays very good mobility in and around the pocket. He’s able to feel the pressure around him as he works in and out of traffic. Very good patience as he waits for the play to develop.
DECISION MAKING:
He’s very skilled at picking up on open receivers within the secondary. Able to work through his progressions, going from his primary to his secondary outlets.
TOUCH:
Another area of strength is his ability to make the right adjustments on the velocity of his throws, adding a softer release. Able to get the ball in between zone coverage.
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Marcos has excellent size for a 2024 Pro Style QB at 6’3” 205 lbs. Stands tall in the pocket with very good vision downfield. He's a pure passer, with sound throwing mechanics and consistency.
ACCURACY:
This is an area of strength for Marcos. He's very consistent, allowing for his throws to be made in-line with his receivers. Excellent ball placement, demonstrating very good anticipation and timing of his receivers routes.
ARM STRENGTH:
Can light it up anywhere on the field. His throws are made of high velocity, able to get to his receivers in a hurry. Excellent vertical passing game, able to extend the field with bombs over the secondary.
RELEASE:
Marcos throws with a fully extended arm release. It comes from up over the top with a high release point. Displays solid footwork getting to his setup, with good balance and stride.
THROW ON RUN:
An athletic QB for his size who can hurt a defense out in the open field. Excellent vision downfield as he works to the outside. Strong forward momentum upon his delivery. Very good lateral movement, with a quick first step. Consistent stride and balance on his dropbacks and setups.
POISE:
He wins awards in just about every competition he competes in. Always among the top passers. Very confident in his abilities as a QB.Marcos displays very good mobility in and around the pocket. He’s able to feel the pressure around him as he works in and out of traffic. Very good patience as he waits for the play to develop.
DECISION MAKING:
He’s very skilled at picking up on open receivers within the secondary. Able to work through his progressions, going from his primary to his secondary outlets.
TOUCH:
Another area of strength is his ability to make the right adjustments on the velocity of his throws, adding a softer release. Able to get the ball in between zone coverage.
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Eight
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Marcos Davila received a very good scouting report here which includes, “very good lateral movement with a quick first step.” He also has a 3.8 GPA.
SIZE:profile - QB Hit List
QB Hit List is the largest QB recruiting football website in the country. We promote up and coming QB’s from middle school through high school.
Marcos has excellent size for a 2024 Pro Style QB at 6’3” 205 lbs. Stands tall in the pocket with very good vision downfield. He's a pure passer, with sound throwing mechanics and consistency.
ACCURACY:
This is an area of strength for Marcos. He's very consistent, allowing for his throws to be made in-line with his receivers. Excellent ball placement, demonstrating very good anticipation and timing of his receivers routes.
ARM STRENGTH:
Can light it up anywhere on the field. His throws are made of high velocity, able to get to his receivers in a hurry. Excellent vertical passing game, able to extend the field with bombs over the secondary.
RELEASE:
Marcos throws with a fully extended arm release. It comes from up over the top with a high release point. Displays solid footwork getting to his setup, with good balance and stride.
THROW ON RUN:
An athletic QB for his size who can hurt a defense out in the open field. Excellent vision downfield as he works to the outside. Strong forward momentum upon his delivery. Very good lateral movement, with a quick first step. Consistent stride and balance on his dropbacks and setups.
POISE:
He wins awards in just about every competition he competes in. Always among the top passers. Very confident in his abilities as a QB.Marcos displays very good mobility in and around the pocket. He’s able to feel the pressure around him as he works in and out of traffic. Very good patience as he waits for the play to develop.
DECISION MAKING:
He’s very skilled at picking up on open receivers within the secondary. Able to work through his progressions, going from his primary to his secondary outlets.
TOUCH:
Another area of strength is his ability to make the right adjustments on the velocity of his throws, adding a softer release. Able to get the ball in between zone coverage.
so who exactly writes the evaluation for quarterback hit list
CountryFrog
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McFroggin
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Kenny Hill averaged maybe 3 yards/carry. He always aimed to stay in the pocket and constantly looked downfield. Dalton was more mobile, but as you can see with his progression in the NFL, running isn’t his strong point. He ran out of necessity.
Eight
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there is a difference between being able to run and choosing not to versus just not being able to run very well. additionally, there is a big difference in being asked to run and being asked to stay in the pocket
kenny might not have had a great career average running the ball, but that in large part was influenced by sack yardage and in 2016 he totaled over 600 rushing yards and 10 td's . 2017 the offense changed and there was less of a need for him to run as the focus changed to anderson and hicks. the change in the emphasis in the offense didn't change his ability to run with the ball.
foster sawyer was a pocket passer who didn't move well, pachall was a guy who had some decent straight line speed, but overall didn't move well
dalton ran for over 1,600 yards in college so while i wouldn't confuse him for boykin or max, he darn sure was closer to kenny and not sawyer or casey
Froggy Style
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Terribly innacurrate.
82 Frog Fever
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WTH do you watch?
Andy Dalton averaged 104 rushes and 400+ yds per season. In 2009 he had the 2nd most carries on the team.
Kenny Hill averaged 110 rushes & 470 yards per season. He was the 2nd leading rusher with the 2nd most carries in 2016.
You are pulling comments out of your ass and they’re mostly dead wrong.
BleedNPurple
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AD’s running won a lot of games. Clemson in Death Valley comes to mind.
fanatical frog
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And the Rose Bowl !
This Ain't Chopped Liver
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On paper, QB2 Josh Hoover is not a dual-threat running QB; lacking speed. Hoover had a total of 15 carries for 67 yards across 3 seasons of high school as starting QB. Could he leave too because Briles wants dual-threats?
Unless Briles and Dykes become enamored with Hoover’s talented arm, which well could happen, but if not, then it seems reasonable and maybe likely that Hoover would leave TCU after the 2023 season. If he leaves after this spring semester, then it could be a big Frog problem at QB this fall.
Besides, Hoover wants to start someplace, likely sooner rather than later, and if TCU is not in the cards with Briles, Morris and other QB’s eventually coming in….
Unless Briles and Dykes become enamored with Hoover’s talented arm, which well could happen, but if not, then it seems reasonable and maybe likely that Hoover would leave TCU after the 2023 season. If he leaves after this spring semester, then it could be a big Frog problem at QB this fall.
Besides, Hoover wants to start someplace, likely sooner rather than later, and if TCU is not in the cards with Briles, Morris and other QB’s eventually coming in….
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McFroggin
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I guess this all depends on your definition of dual threat. Dalton knew when to run in college, but he wasn’t really dynamic with the ball. No one in the NFL wants to see him trying to make open field moves. You would never move Dalton to WR or RB like we did Boykin. Boykin could have the ball anywhere and make a difference.
If our baseline for dual threat is Dalton, then we are absolutely blowing it with Davila. He could absolutely learn when to run and make a difference. He will never be the next Boykin, but he is a great passer. This furthers my point that we should absolutely be pushing for Davila if people here believe Dalton/Hill are dual threat caliber.
CountryFrog
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Just stop. You said something that was dead wrong and now you're trying to validate it with what Dalton has done in the NFL. You either never watched Dalton or Hill play at TCU or you're totally making [ Finebaum ] up. The benchmark for being mobile is not whether or not you're as athletic as Trevone Boykin.
Move on. You're only making the hole bigger.
ShreveFrog
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Andy was effective with the zone read, sometimes keeping it for needed yardage. Ask Wisconsin. He could also scramble and move the sticks. But I wouldn’t say he was dual threat.
Have really only seen Hoover and Davila throw the ball on their highlight reels, which of course, is impressive. But I suspect they are Dalton-like in the run game. I hope we can hang on to Hoover. Hard to keep backup qb’s who can play in this age of the portal.
Have really only seen Hoover and Davila throw the ball on their highlight reels, which of course, is impressive. But I suspect they are Dalton-like in the run game. I hope we can hang on to Hoover. Hard to keep backup qb’s who can play in this age of the portal.
fanatical frog
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Me too.
