Well, CTR is projecting the rankings based on only 4 W's, but historically, the first ranking based on the ITA formula counts 5 W's. They've got an app that allows you to project that too (we still come out 3rd). But you're definitely accurate about the road W bonus thing - according to the formula, Tennessee's W over us in Ft. Worth is way more important than our W over them in Seattle.
I agree with this except perhaps on Vives. Admittedly, I haven't seen him play much, but I have a feeling that he's a better outdoors player than inside. Most guys from Spain are. For me, it's kind of a "where are you from and where did you learn to play" thing. Northern climes - better indoors; Southern climes - better outdoors. (With exceptions).
Oh man that's not right. Just dropping the 1k points, he'll drop to #20 or so.
Agreed. But I just checked CTR again (for the millionth time) and we're now projected as #2 (based on both 4 and 5 W's).
It's probably going to take a big money donor to renovate the indoors facility and add the needed 6th court and seating, but cameras inside can almost certainly be done within the existing budget. I'd like to see a new updated website as well that can show all 6 courts on the stream at the same time and show real-time scores like other schools have.
I get that and it's very similar to RPI/NET for baseball with the points for road versus away. But they have 2 losses and we have 1. That should count for something too. It defies logic that 2 losses to top 4 teams wouldn't be worse than 1 loss to a top 4 team.
This. I get having certain parameters to make sure SOS is accounted for in wins/losses, but after a certain degree, the first trigger should be how many losses a team has. Second should be H2H results. Ohio St, Tenn, TCU and other top programs have VERY similar SOS at this point. TCU is the obvious best team, and the loss column shows it along with the indoor championship. It's idiotic.
The problem for Cam if he does indeed have his ranking dipped after Indian Wells is that he's going to fall out of the Top 16, which will affect his seedings for Roland Garros and Wimbledon for sure and maybe the U.S. Open. Instead of having a clear path to the Round of 16, it'll only (presumably) be favorable to make the Round of 32. He does have an advantage, though, in that, having had to play Nadal, Nadal, Federer and Alcaraz in the 3rd, 3rd, 3rd and 1st rounds in last year's Slams, he really isn't defending a lot of Slam points, so, if he can go further, he can make up some lost ground. But it all depends on his performance. If he can win another title or two and make at least the quarters or semis at Indian Wells, he isn't going to lose perhaps as much as projected. At Delray, he clearly benefited from being the top seed. Slipping in the rankings will remove those potential benefits.
Good thoughts, but I just don't think they're going to change the formula. If they didn't do it last year when the Big 10 and Pac 12 were playing only conference matches because of COVID and were massively disadvantaged and whined for months about it and brought the full weight and power of Ohio State, USC, UCLA and Stanford to make changes, they aren't going to do it to rectify a "minor" anomaly with TCU and Tennessee in a given year. I think the chances of a change are minimal.
Did you create this chart yourself? If so, I applaud your dedication to the sport.
