It’s not a big 12 rule
Alex Delton transferring to TCU
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Froggish
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And if you would like to continue to make excuses for Cumbie it’s your prerogative. Funny how guys tend to get better under Cumbie after 2 years on campus and 15 starts into their career but absolutely suck prior to that. Yet you seem to discount the idea that someone gets better because of experience..
Wake me up when you tell me what happened with Kenny, SR, Grayson, and MC...Who were all 2 years in under Cumbie when hitting the field and proceeding to suck..
My Boykin point still remains he had a QB when he got here who was poised for a breakout after 17 starts under his belt and who everyone acknowledged was an electric athlete with a phenomenal arm. Folks questioned his QB skills Nobody questioned his talent. That’s why he go so much better. He was a developed talent placed into a proven QB friendly system
Frog-in-law1995
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I thought they changed that rule. Either way, K State can still EABOD.
That is BS.
No one predicted Boykin would break out. We were all thrilled when Joeckel transferred in from ATM and said he would win the job. Cumbie coached up Boykin. Period. There is no argument about that..........unless we are counting yours today.
I have a lot of questions about SC's play calling, but he can coach up QBs. We will find out for sure with JR and Max this year and down the road. But if you argue that Boykin improved leaps and bound without the help of SC (and Meach), then you are lost.
Are you a troll or are you an alum that hates your school? Seriously. I have not read one positive word about anything TCU related from you. What is your problem?
BABYFACE
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I am not sure on this. I wasn’t aware of a Big 12 rule applying to grad transfers until the OU/Kendall thing popped up. If OU can block grad transfer Kendall to WVU, then theoretically KSU could with Delton.
Zubaz
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In-conference transfers can be blocked by the school, and he'd have to sit a year. See what OU is doing to Kendall and WVU.
LisaLT
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John Holmes. I've seen plenty of porn, but I can't say I've seen a film with him in it, but i did see the film "Wonderland" about John Holmes and the murders in CA. What a messed up dude he was.
LawFrog504
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We should go after James Blackman from FSU. Put his name into the portal this afternoon
jake102
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What are the requirements for getting your name in the portal? I've got eligibility, wouldn't mind taking my chances in this magical portal
Froggish
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TCU alum ...love my school and love the football program...Not trolling just making the argument that Cumbies reputation as a QB whisperer is not warranted. Improvement in play is as much about experience as it is anything else. The fact remains Cumbie showed up and had a QB here with 16+ starts and 3250 yards of passing and 22 TD passes. That’s pretty good stuff to work with. Can we at least agree on that?
And as I’ve said before I’ve been around here for a long while under the name FrogLifeYo but had some issues with password recovery after my phone was replaced...Healthy debate that’s fact based shouldn’t be considered trolling..
So we disagree then about Boykin. Fine. But let's focus on Tre.Stick with facts.
He was terrible the first two years he played. A lot of that had to with coaching and the preparation he put in. Yes, the change ot the spread/hurry up helped him a lot. But that is coaching, too. His throwing motion was shortened and he learned how to read coverages better under SC.
Do you remember when he played in Stillwater as a frosh and soph? It was as bad as QB play as you can get. Worse than Shawn Robinson this year. And he was not hurt. Or how about the identical red-zone interceptions he threw against ISU and other opponents those two years. That is not learning how to play QB. Can you give me any examples of how he improved when he was a sophomore because I and a lot of other posters here did not see it.
That changed under SC. Period. Boykin was a much-improved player as a junior and was even better as a senior. SC had something to do with that. I am sure Tre would agree with me.He was not poised for a break-out year. We all prayed that Joeckel would win the job and give us steady QB play.
And, if you love TCU like you say, please find and repost a positive comment about a TCU player or coach you have made. And there is a way to reset your password on here. I have done it many times. I am sure the mods can help you out, too.
LawFrog504
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I completely agree man. This notion that he is this QB guru is mind boggling to me. He stumbled into a first round pick at receiver in 14-15 that masked a TON of deficiencies in this offense. The ability to fall back and heave jump balls at Doctson masked a ton of issues with his offense and play calling. Then Doctson is gone and 16-17 we see god awful to extremely average QB play. Then we see the utter dumpster fire of QB that took place this past year, with the most talented QB to step foot on campus (based on recruiting ranking). Cumbie had 2 full years with a 6'3 230 pound kid with a cannon arm and he puts forward the absolute crap we just spent 5 months witnessing. Crucify me if you want but with the exception of 2 all time TCU talents in 14-15 he has shown no ability to produce an above average quarterback. He showed no ability whatsover last year to tailor an offense around the strengths of a QB, and then we spent all summer saying "we need to have 2 guys ready to go" and in reality we had zero. Cumbie entered the bowl game with a 5th year 4th string QB and decided that slinging it across the yard with this kid was the best course of action.
Cumbie can certainly attract highly rated and talented QB's. There is no debating that. But this notion that he is this QB whisperer that turns water into wine is absolutely ludicrous at this point
Eight
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if it isn't a conference rule then whose rule is it?
Chongo94
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This seems to be glossed over too often by many people.
No doubt. Even in our good years, I always thought our offense was overrated a bit, with 2015 being maybe the exception. That 2014 offense was bailed out by the defense and kicking game on multiple occasions.
Mean Purple
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Mean Purple
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This^^^^^ , So much this.
Mean Purple
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