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So, I’m rewatching the game against Baylor from last season...

Mean Purple

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The “so” phenomenon is the mystery of the age. It seemed to start during the early tech revolution by very smart people who were not very good communicators. Since they were smart it mushroomed due to copycats thinking it made them sound smarter. Rhetorically, it is the equivalent of “uh”, a moment to gather your thoughts, but “so” is somehow brilliant while “uh” sounds dumb. Just my opinion.
The Lumbergh theory. I like it.
 

Frog DJ

Active Member
I try (and often fail) to avoid judging anyone based on whether I agree with them or not, but as member of the media for over 50 years I've learned (and embraced) the reality that you can never please everyone.

Don't get me wrong, I shake my head in disgust and bewilderment over some of the comments I hear and read from so-called "sports experts," but I hope I'm open-minded enough to accept opposing viewpoints.

Certainly, others are free to disagree with that (and from reading this thread - I'm sure many of you do), but as an industry insider I know firsthand how difficult the job can be, so I attempt to reserve judgment.

Go Frogs!
 

Mean Purple

Active Member
I try (and often fail) to avoid judging anyone based on whether I agree with them or not, but as member of the media for over 50 years I've learned (and embraced) the reality that you can never please everyone.

Don't get me wrong, I shake my head in disgust and bewilderment over some of the comments I hear and read from so-called "sports experts," but I hope I'm open-minded enough to accept opposing viewpoints.

Certainly, others are free to disagree with that (and from reading this thread - I'm sure many of you do), but as an industry insider I know firsthand how difficult the job can be, so I attempt to reserve judgment.

Go Frogs!
Sat next to an analyst on a plane once. That person had the same type of scout notes, etc. as when he coached, to a point. (although he told me life is much better in the broadcasting booth) I would imagine, that announcers easily have the same amount of homework. I got to sit in a radio broadcast booth for a half of a really big game in another state. It was absolutely fascinating. (I admit that I am biased towards the radio side. Just the local flavor, even into the breaks for advertisers, drives interest.)

The likes of Jim Hawthorne and John Ward.
 

dawg

Active Member
Only once:

“That was the Tank, baby!”

Even that game call wasn't universally liked. Some on this site were witching about how Herbie and Brent were "slamming the Frogs" and "disrespecting us." Those individuals must have missed the part at the end of the game where Brent said we have an "outstanding school of business" and our tuition is "a bargain, folks."

Some people like to witch and look for reasons to do so.
 
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Frog DJ

Active Member
Sat next to an analyst on a plane once. That person had the same type of scout notes, etc. as when he coached, to a point. (although he told me life is much better in the broadcasting booth) I would imagine, that announcers easily have the same amount of homework. I got to sit in a radio broadcast booth for a half of a really big game in another state. It was absolutely fascinating. (I admit that I am biased towards the radio side. Just the local flavor, even into the breaks for advertisers, drives interest.)

The likes of Jim Hawthorne and John Ward.
John Ward was an especially colorful play-by-play guy. His distinctive style and vivid descriptions are reminiscent of a by-gone age in broadcasting.

Today's announcers have many more technological "bells and whistles" than Ward, but his ability to paint a mental picture for the listener was incredible.

Network commentators also have large staffs to provide them with background info, but local radio guys are forced to do their own research. Just ask 2314.

If you really want to be impressed - get a radio baseball announcer to show you the amount of information he needs to fill the downtime between pitches!

Go Frogs!
 

Mean Purple

Active Member
John Ward was an especially colorful play-by-play guy. His distinctive style and vivid descriptions are reminiscent of a by-gone age in broadcasting.

Today's announcers have many more technological "bells and whistles" than Ward, but his ability to paint a mental picture for the listener was incredible.

Network commentators also have large staffs to provide them with background info, but local radio guys are forced to do their own research. Just ask 2314.

If you really want to be impressed - get a radio baseball announcer to show you the amount of information he needs to fill the downtime between pitches!

Go Frogs!
Sometimes I wonder why baseball broadcasts don't just do a call-in show during the game to fill the gaps. That has to get pretty exhausting.
 

Zubaz

Member
I try (and often fail) to avoid judging anyone based on whether I agree with them or not, but as member of the media for over 50 years I've learned (and embraced) the reality that you can never please everyone.

Don't get me wrong, I shake my head in disgust and bewilderment over some of the comments I hear and read from so-called "sports experts," but I hope I'm open-minded enough to accept opposing viewpoints.

Certainly, others are free to disagree with that (and from reading this thread - I'm sure many of you do), but as an industry insider I know firsthand how difficult the job can be, so I attempt to reserve judgment.

Go Frogs!
I agree, as a general rule I think a lot of the complaints about guys like Herbie or others "hating on TCU" is more "They're a neutral voice, and if we do something bad they are going to comment on it". See the thread OP, where we played pretty poorly in the first half and that was mentioned. That's

The only exception was Rod Gilmore. That dude just seemed to have it out for us. I remember during the SMU game in 2010, he got all indignant because we weren't called for a helmet to helmet penalty. The replayed showed very clearly that we hit their QB in the chest, and he said "To me, that's still helmet to helmet, because the intent was there even if he missed". What can you even say to that?
 

RollToad

Baylor is Trash.
I agree, as a general rule I think a lot of the complaints about guys like Herbie or others "hating on TCU" is more "They're a neutral voice, and if we do something bad they are going to comment on it". See the thread OP, where we played pretty poorly in the first half and that was mentioned. That's

The only exception was Rod Gilmore. That dude just seemed to have it out for us. I remember during the SMU game in 2010, he got all indignant because we weren't called for a helmet to helmet penalty. The replayed showed very clearly that we hit their QB in the chest, and he said "To me, that's still helmet to helmet, because the intent was there even if he missed". What can you even say to that?
As you once said: Rod Gilmore, Pre-crime Specialist.
 
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