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<blockquote data-quote="Longfrog" data-source="post: 567224" data-attributes="member: 26611"><p>QUOTE(Houston Frog @ Jun 2 2010, 11:56 AM) [snapback]567218[/snapback]</p><p>I understand that there are a lot of advanced metrics being used, and I look at all of them as well, but I look at WHIP, K's/AB, and some of those other metrics as more of an indicator for how good a pitcher's "stuff" is (and a lot of the times, a better indicator of how well their game will translate to the next level). Obviously, a guy like Purke is going to dominate in those types of categories (that's why he was a 1st round pick out of high school), but that doesn't necessarily mean he's our ace. I'd guess Brad Lidge had better K's/AB numbers than Greg Maddux, but that doesn't mean he's a better pitcher.</p><p></p><p>I understand that ERA isn't the be all end all of pitching stats, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that it isn't a good stat. How many runs a pitcher allows is pretty important, no matter what anyone says. Moral of the story, you can't look at any one stat and determine who is the best pitcher, but if I had to take one, I'd probably still take ERA, with WHIP being a close second (and win/loss record would be towards the bottom).</p><p></p><p>All that being said, those numbers you put up for Purke are pretty incredible, kid is filthy.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Still wish the Rangers had signed Purke just so I could root for the guy for the next decade. Oh well, guess I'll just have to make the most of his time at TCU.</p><p></p><p>ERA's not a bad stat, but it's prone to big swings due to luck just like won-loss records (not to the same degree, obviously). I'm not up to speed with advanced metrics like some, but those three stats are the ones I like. How many baserunners do you allow, how hard are you getting hit and how often do you get the guy out without even testing the defense. If you look at all three, I think you get a pretty good idea of what you're dealing with. W/r/t Lidge v. Maddux, I don't know how the other two stats would stack up (with Maddux's BB rate, I bet his WHIP is lower), but starters and closers are different animals anyways.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Longfrog, post: 567224, member: 26611"] QUOTE(Houston Frog @ Jun 2 2010, 11:56 AM) [snapback]567218[/snapback] I understand that there are a lot of advanced metrics being used, and I look at all of them as well, but I look at WHIP, K's/AB, and some of those other metrics as more of an indicator for how good a pitcher's "stuff" is (and a lot of the times, a better indicator of how well their game will translate to the next level). Obviously, a guy like Purke is going to dominate in those types of categories (that's why he was a 1st round pick out of high school), but that doesn't necessarily mean he's our ace. I'd guess Brad Lidge had better K's/AB numbers than Greg Maddux, but that doesn't mean he's a better pitcher. I understand that ERA isn't the be all end all of pitching stats, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that it isn't a good stat. How many runs a pitcher allows is pretty important, no matter what anyone says. Moral of the story, you can't look at any one stat and determine who is the best pitcher, but if I had to take one, I'd probably still take ERA, with WHIP being a close second (and win/loss record would be towards the bottom). All that being said, those numbers you put up for Purke are pretty incredible, kid is filthy. Still wish the Rangers had signed Purke just so I could root for the guy for the next decade. Oh well, guess I'll just have to make the most of his time at TCU. ERA's not a bad stat, but it's prone to big swings due to luck just like won-loss records (not to the same degree, obviously). I'm not up to speed with advanced metrics like some, but those three stats are the ones I like. How many baserunners do you allow, how hard are you getting hit and how often do you get the guy out without even testing the defense. If you look at all three, I think you get a pretty good idea of what you're dealing with. W/r/t Lidge v. Maddux, I don't know how the other two stats would stack up (with Maddux's BB rate, I bet his WHIP is lower), but starters and closers are different animals anyways. [/QUOTE]
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