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SBB: Urban Meyer-Outlaw coaches not afraid of NCAA

Waccy Frog

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Is it that the whole profession turned around in the last 5 years? Or that he has been competing in the SEC the last 5 years? I think it's the latter.
 

westtexfrog

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Is it that the whole profession turned around in the last 5 years? Or that he has been competing in the SEC the last 5 years? I think it's the latter.


Have to agree with you. Didn't Joe Pa say 20+ years ago that he wasn't ready to retire because he didn't want to leave college football to the Barry Switzer and Jackie Sherrills of the world? Outlaw Coaches have been around for a good while, Urban just didn't realize it till he got to the SEC.
 

Gunner

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Heck, OU has been doing that since 1940. Been on probation every decade since. Built a huge tradition in the process and nobody can tell NCAA penalites affected them at all...

Where's ol Urban been, all this time.
 

BrewingFrog

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The NCAA. After the last few years preceding 2010, I thought they'd hit rock bottom. Turns out, they'd sent for drills and explosives...

Still nothing on Scam Newton and Auburn. Easily the most egregious example of contempt for "the rules" I can remember. The NCAA doesn't care, except for whatever negative blowback they might suffer for their glacier-like speed in reacting to events...
 

Big Frog II

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The USC case is just another example of how worthless the NCAA has become. I even emailed the NCAA President and told him so. All the NCAA bigwigs care about is their overpaid salaries and expense accounts.
 

froginaustin

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Give it time, BF - give it time.

You-know-what always floats to the top, eventually.

Go Frogs!
Absolutely. That mother-of-all-threads exposition on the Auburn situation, on an LSU board, makes it very likely that the feds are trying to fry much bigger fish than just Auburn athletics, and have likely told the NCAA (and the SEC and Auburn) to sit down and shut up until the federal investigation is done or has moved passed sCam's involvement in the big picture-- corrupt banking and casino/race track gambling, skimming and other flim-flam with public construction contracts, and probably other stuff I can't remember just now.

I haven't given up on the Man taking a crack at the Newtons and Auburn. Sometimes it takes the govt a long time to put together a big RICO case.
 

BrewingFrog

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Well, as Coach Meyer says, it's the simple fact that justice is anything but swift. Years go by before any action is taken. By the time the NCAA springs into action, the perps are long gone and the current kids and coaches, who may be clean and pure as the wind driven snow, suffer the consequences of others actions. That sucks.

Honestly, do any of us think that screw-his-pants-on-crooked Gene Chizik will be at Auburn in 2016 when the NCAA finally gets around to doing something (if anything)? Scam will be either on some NFL roster or in prison for fixing games. He won't care. The Right Reverend Newton will have his congregation to fall back on. The Auburn trustees and other creeps involved in this are probably going to have expired before the denouement of the case against them. As the jest goes, their interest in these matters will have greatly diminished by that time...

The horse has escaped the barn. The hen has been eaten. Auburn has gotten away with it. The NCAA did nothing while they had time to do so, even though they had overwhelming evidence of wrongdoing. Wrondoing which they had clearly established precedent for immediate suspension. They let it slide. Anything they do now (or even 5 years hence) is nearly meaningless.
 

frogbyproxy

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Well, as Coach Meyer says, it's the simple fact that justice is anything but swift. Years go by before any action is taken. By the time the NCAA springs into action, the perps are long gone and the current kids and coaches, who may be clean and pure as the wind driven snow, suffer the consequences of others actions. That sucks.

Honestly, do any of us think that screw-his-pants-on-crooked Gene Chizik will be at Auburn in 2016 when the NCAA finally gets around to doing something (if anything)? Scam will be either on some NFL roster or in prison for fixing games. He won't care. The Right Reverend Newton will have his congregation to fall back on. The Auburn trustees and other creeps involved in this are probably going to have expired before the denouement of the case against them. As the jest goes, their interest in these matters will have greatly diminished by that time...

The horse has escaped the barn. The hen has been eaten. Auburn has gotten away with it. The NCAA did nothing while they had time to do so, even though they had overwhelming evidence of wrongdoing. Wrondoing which they had clearly established precedent for immediate suspension. They let it slide. Anything they do now (or even 5 years hence) is nearly meaningless.




I truly believe the Justice Department will do something to Auburn before the NCAA does anything. Sometimes there is a need to re-invent the wheel and it's time to take a hard look at the NCAA!
 
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