Non-AQ vs. AQ 2011

[Duquesne Frog]

So, do we care after this year how the non-AQ conferences are doing against AQ competition? Or do we begin the hard-fought and well-earned process of looking down our noses at the Great Unwashed as we bear and grimace at the thought of their mere existence? Did we ever care? Will I get bored with this bit? It all remains to be seen.

Regardless, here are the week 1 matchups:

MWC
UNLV @Wisc
TCU @Bay
Boise @UGa

CUSA
@Mem vs. MissSt
Rice @Tex
@Hou vs. UCLA
ECU @USoCar
Tulsa @OU
Marsh @WVU
SMU @A&M

Indies:
BYU @Miss

MAC
Buf @Pitt
MiaOh @Mizz
Akr @OhSt
Kent @Bama
WMU @Mich
@Ball vs. Ind

SBC
@WKU vs. Ky
MTSU @Pur
ULaMon vs. FSU
Troy @Clem
ArkSt @Ill
FAU @Fla
ULaLa @OkSt

WAC
USU @Aub
SJSU @Stan
@Haw vs. Col

ACC
WFU @Syr
@BC vs. Nwern

B12
None

BE
@Syr vs. WFU
USF @ND

B10
Nwern @BC
Minn @USC

P12
@USC vs. Minn
Ore vs. LSU

SEC
LSU vs. Ore

 

[An-Cap Frog]

Just because we are moving to the Big East does not mean your bit is done. Look at it as an opportunity to branch out. Say, compare AQ vs. AQ in non-conference. You have a year to think about it. I am sure it is only a dozen games or so...


B12
None

Very telling...

 

[FrogAbroad]

Keep it going, Duquesne.

I still hold the opinion that locking the doors of top-tier bowl games to keep out any team only because of their conference affiliation is evil, immoral and should be illegal. I maintain no bowl game should be allowed to bind itself to more than one conference. I believe that if a playoff system is ever instituted it must not be limited by design to just certain conferences plus ND.

Keep it going, Duquesne, and keep us aware of the arrogant snobbery that contaminates college football, lest we ourselves become guilty of despising our own history.

 

[Duquesne Frog]

B12
None

Very telling...

Since I've been doing this, the Big 12 has never failed to have the fewest percentage of OOC games against other AQ opponents per team than any other conference. But that's obviously because they need to rest their teams for the week-in week-out grind of the rest of conference ...

 

[Endless Purple]

non-AQ still important. Though starting next year, we want the non-AQ wins against conferences other than the BE.

 

[Duquesne Frog]

I'm just going to quickly update this, because I know this week we particularly don't care, but ...

MWC (1-2, 0-0 @ home, 0-0 neutral -- yes I know Boise in Atlanta was technically neutral, but I refuse to call it that ...)
L UNLV 17 @Wisc 51
L TCU 48 @Bay 50
W Boise 35 @UGa 21

CUSA (1-6, 1-1 @ home)
L @Mem 14 MissSt 59
L Rice 9 @Tex 34
W @Hou 38 UCLA 34
L ECU 37 @USoCar 56
L Tulsa 14 @OU 47
L Marsh 13 @WVU 34
L SMU 14 @A&M 46

Indies (1-0, 0-0 @home)
W BYU 14 @Miss 13

MAC (1-5, 1-0 @home)
L Buf 16 @Pitt 35
L MiaOh 6 @Mizz 17
L Akr 0 @OhSt 42
L Kent 7 @Bama 48
L WMU 10 @Mich 34
W @Ball 27 Ind 20

SBC (0-7, 0-0 @home, 0-1 neutral)
L WKU 3 Ky 14
L MTSU 24 @Pur 27
L ULaMon 0 @FSU 34
L Troy 19 @Clem 43
L ArkSt 15 @Ill 33
L FAU 3 @Fla 41
L ULaLa 34 @OkSt 61

WAC (1-2, 1-0 @home)
L USU 38 @Aub 42
L SJSU 3 @Stan 57
W @Haw 34 CU 17

ACC (0-2, 0-1 @home)
L WFU 29 @Syr 36
L @BC 17 Nwern 24

B12 (0-0, 0-0 @home)
None

BE (2-0, 1-0 @home)
W @Syr 36 WFU 29
W USF 23 @ND 20

B10 (1-1, 0-0 @home)
W Nwern 24 @BC 17
L Minn 17 @USC 19

P12 (1-1, 1-0 @home, 0-1 neutral)
W @USC 19 Minn 17
L Ore 27 LSU 40

SEC (1-0, 0-0 @home, 1-0 neutral)
W LSU 27 Ore 40

Standings
BE 2-0 1.000 (1-0 0-0)
SEC 1-0 1.000 (0-0 1-0)
Indies 1-0 1.000 (0-0 0-0)
P12 1-1 .500 (1-0 0-1)
B10 1-1 .500 (0-0 0-0)
MWC 1-2 .333 (0-0 0-0)
WAC 1-2 .333 (1-0 0-0)
MAC 1-5 .167 (1-0 0-0)
CUSA 1-6 .143 (1-1, 0-0)
ACC 0-2 .000 (0-1 0-0)
SBC 0-7 .000 (0-0, 0-1)
B12 0-0 .000 (0-0, 0-0)

 

[FrogAbroad]

Thanks, DF!

 

[Duquesne Frog]

Next weeks matchups:

MWC
UNLV @WSU
@UNM vs. Ark

CUSA
@Rice vs. Pur
@ECU vs. VaTech
UAB @Fla
@UCF vs. BC

Indy
BYU @Tex

MAC
Tol @OhSt
CMU @Ky
NIU @Kan
Ball @USF

SBC
FIU @L'ville
FAU @MichSt
@MTSU vs. GaTech

WAC
NMSU @Minn
Nev @Ore
Haw @Wash
Fres @Neb
SJSU @UCLA

ACC
@UNC vs. Rut
@Duke vs. Stan
UVa @Ind

BE
Rut @UNC
Cincy @Tenn
UConn @Vandy

B10
@Ind vs. UVa
Iowa @ISU
@Wisc vs. OreSt
@PSU vs. Bama
@Mich vs. ND

B12
@OkSt vs. Zona
Mizz @ ASU
@ISU vs. Iowa

P12
Stan @Duke
Zona @OkSt
@ASU vs. Mizz
OreSt @Wisc

SEC
@Tenn vs. Cincy
@Vandy vs. UConn
Bama @PSU

 

[2314@work]

So, do we care after this year how the non-AQ conferences are doing against AQ competition? Or do we begin the hard-fought and well-earned process of looking down our noses at the Great Unwashed as we bear and grimace at the thought of their mere existence? Did we ever care? Will I get bored with this bit? It all remains to be seen.

Regardless, here are the week 1 matchups:

MWC
UNLV @Wisc
TCU @Bay
Boise @UGa

CUSA
@Mem vs. MissSt
Rice @Tex
@Hou vs. UCLA
ECU @USoCar
Tulsa @OU
Marsh @WVU
SMU @A&M

Indies:
BYU @Miss

MAC
Buf @Pitt
MiaOh @Mizz
Akr @OhSt
Kent @Bama
WMU @Mich
@Ball vs. Ind

SBC
@WKU vs. Ky
MTSU @Pur
ULaMon vs. FSU
Troy @Clem
ArkSt @Ill
FAU @Fla
ULaLa @OkSt

WAC
USU @Aub
SJSU @Stan
@Haw vs. Col

ACC
WFU @Syr
@BC vs. Nwern

B12
None

BE
@Syr vs. WFU
USF @ND

B10
Nwern @BC
Minn @USC

P12
@USC vs. Minn
Ore vs. LSU

SEC
LSU vs. Ore

2314 votes yes

 

[An-Cap Frog]

Technically, Cal plays this week at Colorado in a non-conference game. The game was on the schedule before Colorado moved to the league, and since neither was able to adequately replace the other on the schedule, it was decided the game would be played but not count in the conference standings.

 

[2314@work]

Technically, Cal plays this week at Colorado in a non-conference game. The game was on the schedule before Colorado moved to the league, and since neither was able to adequately replace the other on the schedule, it was decided the game would be played but not count in the conference standings.

'Nutty :biggrin:

 

[Duquesne Frog]

Technically, Cal plays this week at Colorado in a non-conference game. The game was on the schedule before Colorado moved to the league, and since neither was able to adequately replace the other on the schedule, it was decided the game would be played but not count in the conference standings.

I'm not sure how to handle that under the guise of my bit here ...

 

[Duquesne Frog]

MWC
L UNLV 7 @WSU 59
L UNM 3 @Ark 52

CUSA
W @Rice 24 Pur 22
L @ECU 10 VaTech 17
L UAB 0 @Fla 39
W @UCF 30 BC 3

Indy
L BYU 16 @Tex 17

MAC
L Tol 22 @OhSt 27
L CMU 13 @Ky 27
L NIU 42 @Kan 45
L Ball 7 @USF 37

SBC
W FIU 17 @L'ville 24
L FAU 0 @MichSt 44
L @MTSU 21 GaTech 49

WAC
W NMSU 28 @Minn 21
L Nev 20 @Ore 69
L Haw 32 @Wash 40
L Fres 29 @Neb 42
L SJSU 17 @UCLA 27

ACC
W @UNC 24 Rut 22
L @Duke 14 Stan 44
W UVa 34 @Ind 31

BE
L Rut 22 @UNC 24
L Cincy 23 @Tenn 45
L UConn 21 @Vandy 24

B10
L @Ind 31 UVa 34
L Iowa 41 @ISU 44
W @Wisc 35 OreSt 0
L @PSU 11 Bama 27
W @Mich 35 ND 31

B12
W @OkSt 37 Zona 14
L Mizz 30 @ ASU 37
W @ISU 44 Iowa 41

P12
W Stan 44 @Duke 14
L Zona 14 @OkSt 37
W @ASU 37 Mizz 30
L OreSt 0 @Wisc 35

SEC
W @Tenn 45 Cincy 23
W @Vandy 24 UConn 21
W Bama 27 @PSU 11

Standings

SEC 4-0 1.000 (2-0 1-0)
B12 2-1 .667 (2-0, 0-0)
Indies 1-1 .500 (0-0 0-0)
P12 3-3 .500 (2-0 0-1)
B10 3-4 .429 (2-2 0-0)
BE 2-3 .400 (1-0 0-0)
ACC 2-3 .400 (1-2 0-0)
CUSA 3-8 .273 (3-2, 0-0)
WAC 2-6 .250 (1-0 0-0)
MWC 1-4 .200 (0-0 0-0)
MAC 1-9 .100 (1-0 0-0)
SBC 1-9 .100 (0-1, 0-1)

 

[Duquesne Frog]

Week 3 Matchups

MWC
CSU vs. CU
@UNM vs. TT
@SDSU vs. WSU

CUSA
@Tulsa vs. OkSt

Indy
@Army vs. Nwstern
Navy @USoCar
@BYU vs. Utah

MAC
@Temp vs. PSU
EMU @Mich
@NIU vs. Wisc
MiaOh @Minn
Akr @Cincy
Kent vs. KSU

SBC
ArkSt @VaTech
University of North Texas @Bama
Troy @Ark

WAC
Ida @A&M

ACC
@Clem vs. Aub
@Mary vs. WVU
@GaTech vs. Kan
@MiaFl vs. OhSt
@FSU vs. OU

BE
WVU @Mary
@UConn vs. ISU
Pitt @Iowa
L'ville @Ky
Syr @USC

B10
OhSt @MiaFl
@Iowa vs. Pitt
MichSt @ND
@Neb vs. Wash
@Ill vs. ASU

B12
Kan @GaTech
OU @FSU
ISU @UConn
Tex @UCLA

P12
@UCLA vs. Tex
@USC vs. Syr
Wash @Neb
ASU @Ill

SEC
Aub @Clem
@Ky vs. L'ville

 

[HG73]

No offense intended, but I hope I never hear the word Non-AQ again. IMO there is currently only one Non-AQ team that should be AQ, and that is Boise but neither the PAC nor the B12 want them, so they are in Non-AQ limbo.

Otherwise I'll be celebrating the greatness of the BCS and wondering why all those Non-AQ teams don't just join an AQ conference. :biggrin:

 

[TCURealtyFrog]

How are you counting Notre Dame? Thought you would have counted them as "Indies".

 

[mrnicefrog]

When I think of the teams like Duke, Wake Forest, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Baylor, Iowa State, that are AQ and have no business being AQ. Then I think of Boise, BYU, Fresno St, Nevada, Houston, and SMU that are non-AQ, it really makes me mad. For this reason, I will continue to root for the non-aq schools.

Any school can beat any school on any give day. For this reason aq & non-aq should be elimitated.

 

[Duquesne Frog]

How are you counting Notre Dame? Thought you would have counted them as "Indies".

Since ND has special rules for access to the BCS, I've traditionally counted them as, effectively, a AQ Indy, for lack of a better term. A 2-loss ND can and has made it into BCS games. A 2 loss BYU won't. So I count them as AQ, in their own little one-team conference.

I'm really too depressed about college football to care, but I'm anal retentive enough to update ...

MWC
L CSU 14 CU 28
L @UNM 13 TT 59
W @SDSU 42 WSU 24

CUSA
L @Tulsa 33 OkSt 59

Indy
W @Army 21 Nwstern 14
L Navy 21 @USoCar 24
L @BYU 10 Utah 54

MAC
L @Temp 10 PSU 14
L EMU 3 @Mich 31
L @NIU 7 Wisc 49
L MiaOh 23 @Minn 29
L Akr 14 @Cincy 59
L Kent 0 @KSU 37

SBC
L ArkSt 7 @VaTech 26
L University of North Texas 0 @Bama 41
L Troy 28 @Ark 38

WAC
L Ida 7 @A&M 37

ACC
W @Clem 38 Aub 24
L @Mary 31 WVU 37
W @GaTech 66 Kan 24
W @MiaFl 24 OhSt 6
L @FSU 13. OU 23

BE
W WVU 37 @Mary 31
L @UConn 20 ISU 24
L Pitt 27 @Iowa 31
W L'ville 24 @Ky 17
L Syr 17 @USC 38

B10
L OhSt 6 @MiaFl 24
W @Iowa 31 Pitt 27
L MichSt 13 @ND 31
W @Neb 51 Wash 38
W @Ill 17 ASU 14

B12
L Kan 24 @GaTech 66
W OU 23 @FSU 13
W ISU 24 @UConn 20
W Tex 49 @UCLA 20

P12
L @UCLA 20. Tex 49
W @USC 38 Syr 17
L Wash 38 @Neb 51
L ASU 14 @Ill 17

SEC
L Aub 24 @Clem 38
L @Ky 17 L'ville 24

Standings

B12 5-2 .714 (2-0, 0-0)
SEC 4-2 .667 (2-1 1-0)
B10 6-6 .500 (5-2 0-0)
ACC 5-5 .500 (4-4 0-0)
P12 4-6 .400 (3-1 0-1)
BE 4-6 .400 (1-1 0-0)
Indies 2-3 .400 (1-1 0-0)
CUSA 3-9 .250 (3-3, 0-0)
MWC 2-6 .250 (1-1 0-0)
WAC 2-7 .222 (1-0 0-0)
SBC 1-12 .100 (0-1, 0-1)
MAC 1-15 .063 (1-2 0-0)

 

[Duquesne Frog]

This week:

MWC
SDSU @Mich (Brady Hoke Bowl)
@Wyo vs. Neb

CUSA
USM @UVa
Tulane @Duke
@Marsh vs. VaTech
Rice @Bay
UTEP @USF

Indy
None

MAC
CMU @MichSt
Tol @Syr
EMU @PSU
Temp @Mary
Ohio @Rut
WMU @Ill
@Buf vs. UConn

SBC
ULaMon @Iowa
FAU @Aub
@University of North Texas vs. Ind

WAC
Nev @TTech
LaTech @MissSt

ACC
NCSU @Cin
@MiaFl vs. KSU

BE
@Cin vs. NCSU
@Pitt vs. ND
@WVU vs. LSU

B12
KSU @MiaFl

B10
@OhSt vs. CU

P12
CU @OhSt

SEC
LSU @WVU

 

[Duquesne Frog]

The MWC is having as bad a year in this metric as any year since I've been keeping track. Looking for a halfway positive spin, note that the non-AQs are 8-11 at home against AQ's, a fairly respectable .421 winning rate. They're 6-57 away from home, a .095 winning rate ...

MWC
L SDSU 7 @Mich 28
L @Wyo 14 Neb 38

CUSA
W USM 30 @UVa 24
L Tulane 27 @Duke 48
L @Marsh 10 VaTech 30
L Rice 31 @Bay 56
L UTEP 24 @USF 52

Indy
None

MAC
L CMU 7 @MichSt 45
L Tol 30 @Syr 33
L EMU 6 @PSU 34
W Temp 38 @Mary 7
L Ohio 26 @Rut 38
L WMU 20 @Ill 23
L @Buf 3 UConn 17

SBC
L ULaMon 17 @Iowa 45
L FAU 14 @Aub 30
W @University of North Texas 24 Ind 21

WAC
L Nev 34 @TTech 35
L LaTech 20 @MissSt 26

ACC
L NCSU 14 @Cin 44
L @MiaFl 24 KSU 28

BE
W @Cin 44 NCSU 14
L @Pitt 12 ND 15
L @WVU 21 LSU 47

B12
W KSU 28 @MiaFl 24

B10
W @OhSt 37 CU 17

P12
L CU 17 @OhSt 37

SEC
W LSU 47 @WVU 21

Standings

B12 6-2 .750 (2-0, 0-0)
SEC 5-2 .714 (2-1 1-0)
B10 7-6 .538 (6-2 0-0)
ACC 5-7 .417 (4-5 0-0)
Indies 2-3 .400 (1-1 0-0)
BE 5-8 .385 (2-3 0-0)
P12 4-7 .364 (3-1 0-1)
CUSA 4-13 .235 (3-4, 0-0)
MWC 2-8 .200 (1-2 0-0)
WAC 2-9 .182 (1-0 0-0)
SBC 2-14 .125 (1-1, 0-1)
MAC 2-21 .087 (1-3 0-0)